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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @wrx7m
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      Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

      Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
      Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

      It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

      Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

      It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

      You are.

      If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
      Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

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      If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
      MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

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      We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

      I like it because chatting via email is dumb. Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

      True. However, if you are the only person doing all of IT for 100 users and don't have a ticketing system, chat is an interruption and the presumption is that it is an instant response. No way can I instantly respond based on my workload.

      That isn't why companies get teams or slack. Totally incorrect use case for chat. It's a collaboration tool, not a customer/user support tool.

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      • wrx7mW
        wrx7m @Obsolesce
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        @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

        Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
        Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

        It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

        Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

        It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

        You are.

        If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
        Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

        745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

        If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
        MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

        1d77261e-485c-4281-9b48-da517d3d4a5a-image.png

        c0875da9-a5ba-4b66-a13e-0f077f2c8980-image.png

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        We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

        I like it because chatting via email is dumb. Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

        True. However, if you are the only person doing all of IT for 100 users and don't have a ticketing system, chat is an interruption and the presumption is that it is an instant response. No way can I instantly respond based on my workload.

        That isn't why companies get teams or slack. Totally incorrect use case for chat. It's a collaboration tool, not a customer/user support tool.

        Right. But then that is all they use for communication. At least, here, that is the case.

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @wrx7m
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          @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

          Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
          Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

          It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

          Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

          It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

          You are.

          If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
          Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

          745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

          If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
          MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

          1d77261e-485c-4281-9b48-da517d3d4a5a-image.png

          c0875da9-a5ba-4b66-a13e-0f077f2c8980-image.png

          69aa2821-d16b-4e96-8dd4-321c9f87c220-image.png

          We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

          I like it because chatting via email is dumb. Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

          True. However, if you are the only person doing all of IT for 100 users and don't have a ticketing system, chat is an interruption and the presumption is that it is an instant response. No way can I instantly respond based on my workload.

          That isn't why companies get teams or slack. Totally incorrect use case for chat. It's a collaboration tool, not a customer/user support tool.

          Right. But then that is all they use for communication. At least, here, that is the case.

          It works well where I am. The ticketing system and service desk is for support, slack is for collaboration and such.

          In your case, you'd probably not use it much unless you are working on designing an IT solution with another department or other IT team members.

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          • wrx7mW
            wrx7m @Obsolesce
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            @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

            Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
            Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

            It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

            Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

            It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

            You are.

            If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
            Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

            745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

            If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
            MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

            1d77261e-485c-4281-9b48-da517d3d4a5a-image.png

            c0875da9-a5ba-4b66-a13e-0f077f2c8980-image.png

            69aa2821-d16b-4e96-8dd4-321c9f87c220-image.png

            We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

            I like it because chatting via email is dumb. Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

            True. However, if you are the only person doing all of IT for 100 users and don't have a ticketing system, chat is an interruption and the presumption is that it is an instant response. No way can I instantly respond based on my workload.

            That isn't why companies get teams or slack. Totally incorrect use case for chat. It's a collaboration tool, not a customer/user support tool.

            Right. But then that is all they use for communication. At least, here, that is the case.

            It works well where I am. The ticketing system and service desk is for support, slack is for collaboration and such.

            In your case, you'd probably not use it much unless you are working on designing an IT solution with another department or other IT team members.

            Yeah. So, that is why I don't want to use it. People want to use it for instant messaging when they have a question about some random shit like, my screen sometimes turns off and I have to press the power button to turn it on again.

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            • mlnewsM
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              Dropbox silently installs new file manager app on users’ systems

              Dropbox ambushes its users with a radically different version of its sync app.
              Hey Dropbox users, how has Dropbox been for you lately? Major changes are coming to the Dropbox desktop app

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              • wrx7mW
                wrx7m @mlnews
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                @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                Dropbox silently installs new file manager app on users’ systems

                Dropbox ambushes its users with a radically different version of its sync app.
                Hey Dropbox users, how has Dropbox been for you lately? Major changes are coming to the Dropbox desktop app

                Just read about this.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Just saw that on machines here with Dropbox.

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                  • hobbit666H
                    hobbit666 @dafyre
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                    @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    Is that the thing we used to call Great Pains?

                    That's what we use. It amazing !!!

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                    • black3dynamiteB
                      black3dynamite @travisdh1
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                      @travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      Proxmox VE 6.0 available with Ceph Nautilus and Corosync 3
                      https://www.proxmox.com/en/news/press-releases/proxmox-ve-6-0

                      Corosync at least makes sense. Ceph I can see being useful. Nautilus on my hypervisor tho, why?

                      There's like 52 additional packages to install. Are you thinking of File manager nautilus? It looks like a full package install of Ceph.

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                      • mlnewsM
                        mlnews
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                        Office 365 'Private Preview' Adds New Deletion Safeguard for Groups

                        Microsoft on Thursday announced a "private preview" of a new groups expiration behavior for organizations using the Office 365 Groups service that relies on user activity as a safeguard against inadvertent group deletion.
                        Group expirations are needed to clean up groups that get created and then abandoned in organizations.

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                        • mlnewsM
                          mlnews
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                          Microsoft Previews Prometheus Data in Azure Monitor for Containers

                          Microsoft has enabled its Azure Monitor for Containers management product to get data from the open source Prometheus monitoring solution.
                          The Prometheus integration with Azure Monitor for Containers is currently at the preview stage for testing, according to Microsoft's Thursday announcement.

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                            scottalanmiller
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                            Facebook is backpedaling from its ambitious vision for Libra

                            Under pressure from regulators, Facebook is rethinking Libra's design.

                            David Marcus, the head of Facebook's new Calibra payments division, appeared before two hostile congressional committees this week with a simple message: Facebook knows policymakers are concerned about Libra, and Facebook won't move forward with the project until their concerns are addressed.

                            While he didn't say so explicitly, Marcus' comments at hearings on Tuesday and Wednesday represented a dramatic shift in Facebook's conception of Libra. In Facebook's original vision, Libra would be an open and largely decentralized network, akin to Bitcoin. The core network would be beyond the reach of regulators. Regulatory compliance would be the responsibility of exchanges, wallets, and other services that are the "on ramps and off ramps" to the Libra ecosystem.

                            Facebook now seems to recognize its original vision was a non-starter with regulators. So this week Marcus sketched out a new vision for Libra—one in which the Libra Association will shoulder significant responsibility for ensuring compliance with laws relating to money laundering, terrorist financing, and other financial crimes.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              in to Bitcoin. The core network would be beyond the reach of regulators. Regulatory compliance would be the responsibility of

                              We already have that - it's called cash and the current banks... not sure this is going to go anywhere now.

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                              • mlnewsM
                                mlnews
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                                Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon – BETA Release

                                This is the BETA release for Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon Edition.
                                Linux Mint 19.2 is a long term support release which will be supported until 2023.

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                                • mlnewsM
                                  mlnews
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                                  IBM's New Open Source Kabanero Promises to Simplify Kubernetes for DevOps

                                  At OSCON, IBM unveiled a new open source platform that promises to make Kubernetes easier to manage for DevOps teams
                                  IBM unveiled new software it's releasing as open source to help simplify Kubernetes for enterprises wanting to jump on the cloud-native bandwagon.

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                                  • black3dynamiteB
                                    black3dynamite
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                                    https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2019/07/19/firefox-to-pile-on-more-native-privacy-features/

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @mlnews
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                                      @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      IBM's New Open Source Kabanero Promises to Simplify Kubernetes for DevOps

                                      At OSCON, IBM unveiled a new open source platform that promises to make Kubernetes easier to manage for DevOps teams
                                      IBM unveiled new software it's releasing as open source to help simplify Kubernetes for enterprises wanting to jump on the cloud-native bandwagon.

                                      I have a hard time believing it will be easier than Rancher or even kubeadm.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                        @stacksofplates said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        IBM's New Open Source Kabanero Promises to Simplify Kubernetes for DevOps

                                        At OSCON, IBM unveiled a new open source platform that promises to make Kubernetes easier to manage for DevOps teams
                                        IBM unveiled new software it's releasing as open source to help simplify Kubernetes for enterprises wanting to jump on the cloud-native bandwagon.

                                        I have a hard time believing it will be easier than Rancher or even kubeadm.

                                        IBM and "simplification" rarely go hand in hand.

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                                        • EddieJenningsE
                                          EddieJennings @mlnews
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                                          @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          What Is AppImage in Linux?

                                          On a Linux distro, you should always install new software with the aid of your package manager when possible.
                                          It keeps things clean, and all files are tracked by the manager and can be easily removed later.

                                          MuseScore uses this. It's pretty slick.

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @EddieJennings
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                                            @EddieJennings said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            What Is AppImage in Linux?

                                            On a Linux distro, you should always install new software with the aid of your package manager when possible.
                                            It keeps things clean, and all files are tracked by the manager and can be easily removed later.

                                            MuseScore uses this. It's pretty slick.

                                            Isn't that basically just a single executable with all the important bits baked in -- similar to a self-extracting zip file?

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