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    Water Closet
    wtf i cant even that is not how that works
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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @travisdh1
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      @travisdh1 said in I can't even:

      @ndc said in I can't even:

      @dashrender said in I can't even:

      @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

      @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

      @jaredbusch that doesn't SEEM like it could be real....

      It is because autocorrect in Outlook has a setting to capitalize automatically.

      Oh man.

      It is one of my users. I know it was a real email...

      Oh yeah - that could totally be a real email in my environment as well!!!!

      That could definitely happen where I work. We have a lot of people who use caps lock for all capitalization purposes, so there is room for that to be busted, and now they are having to hold the shift key down while pushing a letter. Mayhem ensues!

      Accountants, accountants everywhere do this in my experience.

      So many old school systems are caps only - those systems drive me bonkers!

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      • WLS-ITGuyW
        WLS-ITGuy @JaredBusch
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        @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

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        @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

        @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

        @jaredbusch that doesn't SEEM like it could be real....

        It is because autocorrect in Outlook has a setting to capitalize automatically.

        Oh man.

        It is one of my users. I know it was a real email...

        Not gonna lie, that made me almost spit coffee all over my screen. It's almost as bad as writing out instructions on how to access/navigate our new Student Info System and still having users ask questions when it is in the doc. RTFM!!!

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
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          Fucking seriously Amazon?
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            Carnival Boy @JaredBusch
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            @jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Carnival Boy
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              @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

              @jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.

              This is every phishing email ever.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

                @jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.

                This is every phishing email ever.

                Shit.. I have to admit - if I gave to craps about HD music, I would have fallen for that one if it was fake... yeah, bad form Amazon!

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                  Carnival Boy @Dashrender
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                  What are they supposed to do?

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                  • jclambertJ
                    jclambert @JaredBusch
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                    @jaredbusch
                    Wow. Just wow

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                    • pmonchoP
                      pmoncho @JaredBusch
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                      @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                      @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

                      @jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.

                      This is every phishing email ever.

                      Well, if it is actually from Amazon, wouldn't that be considered marketing instead of phishing?

                      Not saying I agree with it the email as I have many other issues with it.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @pmoncho
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                        @pmoncho said in I can't even:

                        @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                        @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

                        @jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.

                        This is every phishing email ever.

                        Well, if it is actually from Amazon, wouldn't that be considered marketing instead of phishing?

                        Not saying I agree with it the email as I have many other issues with it.

                        It is a legitimate email from Amazon. But it is nothing but a click bait click here to get something free email. When you work and work and work to train your users to not click on shit it seems too good to be true, but then a legitimate company sends out bullshit like this.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                          @pmoncho said in I can't even:

                          @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                          @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

                          @jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.

                          This is every phishing email ever.

                          Well, if it is actually from Amazon, wouldn't that be considered marketing instead of phishing?

                          Not saying I agree with it the email as I have many other issues with it.

                          It is a legitimate email from Amazon. But it is nothing but a click bait click here to get something free email. When you work and work and work to train your users to not click on shit it seems too good to be true, but then a legitimate company sends out bullshit like this.

                          Other than smarter users, I don't see this problem going away.

                          Vendors know they need to present a near zero friction experience if they want customers - i.e. putting in a plan text link like amzn.com/shorturl and asking the customer to copy and paste it into a browser is a fail, and a fail for more than one reason.

                          Sadly - even the smartest, most well intention people will get tripped up - was tired, super busy and not paying close attention, etc..

                          While I completely agree with JB that ads like this one (email ads) just suck!, I don't see even legit ones ever going away 😞

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                          • pmonchoP
                            pmoncho @JaredBusch
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                            @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                            @pmoncho said in I can't even:

                            @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                            @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

                            @jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.

                            This is every phishing email ever.

                            Well, if it is actually from Amazon, wouldn't that be considered marketing instead of phishing?

                            Not saying I agree with it the email as I have many other issues with it.

                            It is a legitimate email from Amazon. But it is nothing but a click bait click here to get something free email. When you work and work and work to train your users to not click on shit it seems too good to be true, but then a legitimate company sends out bullshit like this.

                            Agreed. With the forever issues these emails provide, as @Dashrender pointed out, the best I can hope for is to continue training users and always tell them to hover over the link before clicking to verify the address. Plus my added statement, "If you don't know, the answer is NO!"

                            From a marketing perspective, my issue with the email is the perceived bonus you get for having an UNLIMITED account (I have one too). We are not getting any bonus for free, its included in the word Unlimited, at least according to the Oxford Dictionary.

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                              Carnival Boy
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                              How is it clickbait? Amazon HD music (CD quality audio) used to be about $5 extra for subscribers, they've now made it free. This is a good thing if you're an audiophile and surely Amazon customers will appreciate getting a heads-up?

                              It's a sign of healthy competition in the music streaming industry with Amazon, Tidal, Apple, Google and Spotify at each others throats.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @Carnival Boy
                                last edited by

                                @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

                                How is it clickbait? Amazon HD music (CD quality audio) used to be about $5 extra for subscribers, they've now made it free. This is a good thing if you're an audiophile and surely Amazon customers will appreciate getting a heads-up?

                                It's a sign of healthy competition in the music streaming industry with Amazon, Tidal, Apple, Google and Spotify at each others throats.

                                that might all be true - but it's also bad training for users.

                                We spend our time trying to train users not to click on shit, and amazon sends stuff like this that makes it a bit more difficult to know exactly what it's doing or where its going.
                                Yeah, it's not click-bait per se, but definitely not what I would consider good form today.
                                And here's Skyetel doing the same damned thing
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                                  Carnival Boy @Dashrender
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                                  @dashrender like I asked before, what are they supposed to do?

                                  I want links in e-mails from my subscription providers. I don't want to have to navigate around the portal trying to find something just because some people don't like links.

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                                    Carnival Boy @pmoncho
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                                    @pmoncho said in I can't even:

                                    From a marketing perspective, my issue with the email is the perceived bonus you get for having an UNLIMITED account (I have one too). We are not getting any bonus for free, its included in the word Unlimited, at least according to the Oxford Dictionary.

                                    What does the Oxford Dictionary say? The word unlimited doesn't imply anything regarding audio quality.

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                                    • pmonchoP
                                      pmoncho @Carnival Boy
                                      last edited by

                                      @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

                                      @pmoncho said in I can't even:

                                      From a marketing perspective, my issue with the email is the perceived bonus you get for having an UNLIMITED account (I have one too). We are not getting any bonus for free, its included in the word Unlimited, at least according to the Oxford Dictionary.

                                      What does the Oxford Dictionary say? The word unlimited doesn't imply anything regarding audio quality.

                                      Oxford says the following:
                                      "not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent."

                                      My view is that the HD would be included in the "extent" part of the definition. So if streaming music tech has spread/extended to HD, it should be included as part of the Unlimited account.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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                                        @pmoncho said in I can't even:

                                        @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

                                        @pmoncho said in I can't even:

                                        From a marketing perspective, my issue with the email is the perceived bonus you get for having an UNLIMITED account (I have one too). We are not getting any bonus for free, its included in the word Unlimited, at least according to the Oxford Dictionary.

                                        What does the Oxford Dictionary say? The word unlimited doesn't imply anything regarding audio quality.

                                        Oxford says the following:
                                        "not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent."

                                        My view is that the HD would be included in the "extent" part of the definition. So if streaming music tech has spread/extended to HD, it should be included as part of the Unlimited account.

                                        I think I agree. For example, if you had quality limits and opened up better quality you might say that you now offer "unlimited quality" or "unlimited quality options."

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @Carnival Boy
                                          last edited by

                                          @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

                                          @dashrender like I asked before, what are they supposed to do?

                                          I want links in e-mails from my subscription providers. I don't want to have to navigate around the portal trying to find something just because some people don't like links.

                                          Except the Skyetel Enroll Now! button does not go to Skyetel.

                                          It goes to list-manage.com

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
                                            last edited by JaredBusch

                                            So, if you are supposed to be some awesome cloud expert (see bluestingray.com)............

                                            How the fuck do you not know who an IP belongs to?

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                                            Oh look, it belongs to NetStuite... The customer's ERP.....

                                            [jbusch@d-jared ~]$ whois 208.46.212.86
                                            [Querying whois.arin.net]
                                            [whois.arin.net]
                                            
                                            #
                                            # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use
                                            # available at: https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/tou/
                                            #
                                            # If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at
                                            # https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/inaccuracy_reporting/
                                            #
                                            # Copyright 1997-2021, American Registry for Internet Numbers, Ltd.
                                            #
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                            # start
                                            
                                            NetRange:       208.44.0.0 - 208.47.255.255
                                            CIDR:           208.44.0.0/14
                                            NetName:        CENTURYLINK-LEGACY-QWEST-INET-3
                                            NetHandle:      NET-208-44-0-0-1
                                            Parent:         NET208 (NET-208-0-0-0-0)
                                            NetType:        Direct Allocation
                                            OriginAS:       
                                            Organization:   CenturyLink Communications, LLC (CCL-534)
                                            RegDate:        1999-06-24
                                            Updated:        2018-02-21
                                            Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/208.44.0.0
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                            OrgName:        CenturyLink Communications, LLC
                                            OrgId:          CCL-534
                                            Address:        100 CENTURYLINK DR
                                            City:           Monroe
                                            StateProv:      LA
                                            PostalCode:     71201
                                            Country:        US
                                            RegDate:        2018-07-12
                                            Updated:        2021-03-11
                                            Comment:        ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE ANY ISP ANNOUNCING PORTIONS WITHIN OUR RANGE SHOULD NOT RELY ON PRESENTED LOA'S UNLESS THOSE RANGES ARE ALSO ANNOUNCED TO A CENTURYLINK ASN.
                                            Comment:        
                                            Comment:        For abuse issues, please email [email protected] 
                                            Comment:        All abuse reports MUST include: 
                                            Comment:        * src IP 
                                            Comment:        * dest IP (your IP) 
                                            Comment:        * dest port 
                                            Comment:        * Accurate date/timestamp and timezone of activity 
                                            Comment:        * Intensity/frequency (short log extracts) 
                                            Comment:        * Your contact details (phone and email)
                                            Comment:        Without these we will be unable to identify the correct owner of the IP address at that point in time.
                                            Comment:        
                                            Comment:        For subpoena or court order please fax 844.254.5800 or refer to our Law Enforcement Support page:
                                            Comment:        
                                            Comment:        https://www.centurylink.com/aboutus/legal/privacy-notice/law-enforcement-support.html
                                            Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/CCL-534
                                            
                                            
                                            OrgAbuseHandle: CAD54-ARIN
                                            OrgAbuseName:   Centurylink Abuse Desk
                                            OrgAbusePhone:  +1-877-886-6515 
                                            OrgAbuseEmail:  [email protected]
                                            OrgAbuseRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/CAD54-ARIN
                                            
                                            OrgTechHandle: QIA-ARIN
                                            OrgTechName:   Centurylink IP Admin
                                            OrgTechPhone:  +1-877-886-6515 
                                            OrgTechEmail:  [email protected]
                                            OrgTechRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/QIA-ARIN
                                            
                                            # end
                                            
                                            
                                            # start
                                            
                                            NetRange:       208.46.212.0 - 208.46.212.255
                                            CIDR:           208.46.212.0/24
                                            NetName:        SAVV-S233229-0
                                            NetHandle:      NET-208-46-212-0-1
                                            Parent:         CENTURYLINK-LEGACY-QWEST-INET-3 (NET-208-44-0-0-1)
                                            NetType:        Reassigned
                                            OriginAS:       
                                            Organization:   NetSuite, Inc. (NETSU-17)
                                            RegDate:        2015-05-28
                                            Updated:        2015-05-28
                                            Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/208.46.212.0
                                            
                                            
                                            OrgName:        NetSuite, Inc.
                                            OrgId:          NETSU-17
                                            Address:        2955 Campus Drive
                                            Address:        Suite 175
                                            City:           San Mateo
                                            StateProv:      CA
                                            PostalCode:     94403
                                            Country:        US
                                            RegDate:        2015-05-28
                                            Updated:        2015-05-28
                                            Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/NETSU-17
                                            
                                            
                                            OrgAbuseHandle: NATAR4-ARIN
                                            OrgAbuseName:   Natarajan, Kanakarajan 
                                            OrgAbusePhone:  +1-925-963-2402 
                                            OrgAbuseEmail:  [email protected]
                                            OrgAbuseRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/NATAR4-ARIN
                                            
                                            OrgTechHandle: NATAR4-ARIN
                                            OrgTechName:   Natarajan, Kanakarajan 
                                            OrgTechPhone:  +1-925-963-2402 
                                            OrgTechEmail:  [email protected]
                                            OrgTechRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/NATAR4-ARIN
                                            
                                            # end
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                            #
                                            # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use
                                            # available at: https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/tou/
                                            #
                                            # If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at
                                            # https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/inaccuracy_reporting/
                                            #
                                            # Copyright 1997-2021, American Registry for Internet Numbers, Ltd.
                                            #
                                            

                                            Maybe your AwesomeSite_06 is not so awesome after all.

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