Let's all get blindsided together!
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@Paul-Luciano said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
Hey everybody! Let's have some fun and trot out an old chestnut.
The president of my company suddenly thinks... hey Exchange online and Office365 is way too expensive.
My reply was "yes, let's just NOT do E/O and watch the riots start.
So, just because we are in need of a good time....
Let's just say.. I agree with him (blunt force trauma often gets me seeing things in a logical manner),
No more Exchange server
No more Office (word, excel, powerpoint, outlook)So we go with.....
Gmail Hosted Email paired with LibreOffice?
Rackspace Email paired with Thunderbird?Sauteed Chilean sea bass... potatoes au gratin... asparagus....paired with ...Rum Raisin?
Go on, lets just push this Bric-à-brac cabinet down a flight of stairs. See what we end up with.
Don't you love theoretical party games?
Most Kind Regards,
Paul "put a cherry tomato back together after it was in the blender" Luciano, MCSE
I would agree the Office 365 is expensive as most people use it in a package that includes access to the desktop clients.
If people are not tied to MS Office, I recommend Librè Office every time. Even better you can install it via Chocolatey.
For the email portion, I tell people to stay on Exchange Online plan 1. It is only $4/user/month by itself. You can find services a bit cheaper, but not by a lot. Though every dollar cheaper is another 25% saved, so phrased that way people sometimes go crazy.
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@JaredBusch said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
I would agree the Office 365 is expensive as most people use it in a package that includes access to the desktop clients.
Same here we just use Exchange online cause office isn't upgraded often enough for it to make finance sense for us right now, even with an EA.
That being said there are plenty of alternative's to exchange that are just as good.
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@Jason said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
@JaredBusch said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
I would agree the Office 365 is expensive as most people use it in a package that includes access to the desktop clients.
Same here we just use Exchange online cause office isn't upgraded often enough for it to make finance sense for us right now, even with an EA.
That being said there are plenty of alternative's to exchange that are just as good.
for what cost though? G Suite is $5/user/month for the base plan.
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@JaredBusch said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
@Jason said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
@JaredBusch said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
I would agree the Office 365 is expensive as most people use it in a package that includes access to the desktop clients.
Same here we just use Exchange online cause office isn't upgraded often enough for it to make finance sense for us right now, even with an EA.
That being said there are plenty of alternative's to exchange that are just as good.
for what cost though? G Suite is $5/user/month for the base plan.
Unless you want to host in house using open source (not recommended) or use something free like Zoho email (up to 25 users, 5GB per user) your aren't going to find it cheaper.
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Rackspace mail is $2 normally, and $1 last I heard for SpiceWorks users. Another $1/month if you want activesync. That's a noticeable potential saving.
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@Dashrender said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
Rackspace mail is $2 normally, and $1 last I heard for SpiceWorks users. Another $1/month if you want activesync. That's a noticeable potential saving.
Rackspace mail is junk.
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@Jason said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
@Dashrender said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
Rackspace mail is $2 normally, and $1 last I heard for SpiceWorks users. Another $1/month if you want activesync. That's a noticeable potential saving.
Rackspace mail is junk.
I agree that their webmail interface is horrible, but if you use it with Outlook with ActiveSync or your phones - it seems fine.
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@Dashrender said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
Rackspace mail is $2 normally, and $1 last I heard for SpiceWorks users. Another $1/month if you want activesync. That's a noticeable potential saving.
Forgetting about SW, discount that cost is $3/month. For only 25% more I will take Exchange Online Plan 1. The offering is better.
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@Paul-Luciano said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
Gmail Hosted Email paired with LibreOffice?
This is more expensive than Hosted Exchange. Only slightly more, but more.
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@Paul-Luciano said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
Rackspace Email paired with Thunderbird?
This works fine. It's super cheap, just 25% the cost of Hosted Exchange and like 23% that of GMail but Rackspace has been having pretty severe problems with support the last two years. It's a decent option, just make sure that people are aware that email technical issues are common and support is weak.
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@Dashrender said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
Rackspace mail is $2 normally, and $1 last I heard for SpiceWorks users. Another $1/month if you want activesync. That's a noticeable potential saving.
Yup, $1 base price and $1 extra. It's just a code that they make public.
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The only other enterprise email option would be Amazon's email, which like the others is $4/user/month. So no savings to be had there.
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But keep in mind calendaring will be very different and a PITA to setup for teams to control calendars etc. Once you Delete things they are gone no way to do any recovery etc. This is not exchange just IMAP which means no real business controls.
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@Minion-Queen said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
But keep in mind calendaring will be very different and a PITA to setup for teams to control calendars etc. Once you Delete things they are gone no way to do any recovery etc. This is not exchange just IMAP which means no real business controls.
How many SMBs don't use shared calendaring? Plenty I'll bet. Of course plenty do use them as well.
I agree with others, O365 Exchange only for $4/m/u or O365 with SP, Office online, ODfB for $5/m/u are very worthwhile products.
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@scottalanmiller said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
Amazon's email
I didn't even know Amazon did Email.
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@coliver said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
@scottalanmiller said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
Amazon's email
I didn't even know Amazon did Email.
It's relatively recent.
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@scottalanmiller said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
@coliver said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
@scottalanmiller said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
Amazon's email
I didn't even know Amazon did Email.
It's relatively recent.
The Free tier is interesting. You can send up to 62,000 emails a month if you are accessing it from an EC2 instance. That's pretty cool.
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I've never understood discussions on the price of e-mail. All offerings seem so trivially cheap to me. I mean in the US you're paying your employees, on average, over $50,000 per year and you're worried about an extra $50 a year for e-mail? We probably spend more on paper towels in the rest room than e-mail but I rarely see the president starting that discussion.
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@Carnival-Boy said in Let's all get blindsided together!:
I've never understood discussions on the price of e-mail. All offerings seem so trivially cheap to me. I mean in the US you're paying your employees, on average, over $50,000 per year and you're worried about an extra $50 a year for e-mail? We probably spend more on paper towels in the rest room than e-mail but I rarely see the president starting that discussion.
Per employee? Damn they go through a huge amount of TP.
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Erm..I haven't done the maths :), but you've got the cost of maintaining the dispensers, employing someone to fill them, disposing of the used ones, ordering new ones.
