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    Hard reset - what does it mean to you?

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    • IRJI
      IRJ
      last edited by

      Hard reset means forced power cycle to me. Soft reset is a reboot.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
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        Hard Reset is a forced power off reboot. Remove battery or button combo depending on the phone model.

        factory reset is a factory reset.

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        • RojoLocoR
          RojoLoco
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          I had the first correct response - what do I win?

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          • IRJI
            IRJ @RojoLoco
            last edited by

            @RojoLoco said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

            I had the first correct response - what do I win?

            This isn't jeopardy, you can't answer in the form of a question so I win.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @RojoLoco
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              @RojoLoco said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

              When you force it to power off and back on? Anything short of a "factory reset"?

              Yep this, pulling the power out of the device (essentially) without the factory reset.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                There's no winning here - it's just a look at what people call it.

                I'm with Danielle - a hard reset is a wipe and reload of the device to factory settings.

                A soft reset is just a reboot, however you have to accomplish it, but the idea is no data loss (unless data is lost because the device was hung and you are rebooting to start it working again).

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  Hard Reset involves a power cycle.

                  Soft reset doesn't break the power circuit from the CPU/memory.

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller
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                    Hard reset involves a car, a can of sardines, two people of short stature, fishing line, a coffee can (empty), bottle of cheap vodka and two hours.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                      There's no winning here - it's just a look at what people call it.

                      I'm with Danielle - a hard reset is a wipe and reload of the device to factory settings.

                      A soft reset is just a reboot, however you have to accomplish it....

                      Soft reset is definitely a reboot.

                      Factory reset takes it back to factory.

                      If you use hard reset to mean factory reset, what do you call an actual hard reset? You are missing a term.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                        @Dashrender said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                        There's no winning here - it's just a look at what people call it.

                        I'm with Danielle - a hard reset is a wipe and reload of the device to factory settings.

                        A soft reset is just a reboot, however you have to accomplish it....

                        Soft reset is definitely a reboot.

                        Factory reset takes it back to factory.

                        If you use hard reset to mean factory reset, what do you call an actual hard reset? You are missing a term.

                        I call it a reboot - doesn't matter that you're forcing it, it's still a reboot. - and actually it's not even that. It's Power down and Power up.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                          @Dashrender said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                          There's no winning here - it's just a look at what people call it.

                          I'm with Danielle - a hard reset is a wipe and reload of the device to factory settings.

                          A soft reset is just a reboot, however you have to accomplish it....

                          Soft reset is definitely a reboot.

                          Factory reset takes it back to factory.

                          If you use hard reset to mean factory reset, what do you call an actual hard reset? You are missing a term.

                          I call it a reboot - doesn't matter that you're forcing it, it's still a reboot. - and actually it's not even that. It's Power down and Power up.

                          It IS a reboot. The discussion is about what kind of reboot - soft or hard. Bench people have to know which they are doing. They are both reboots.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reboot_(computing)

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                            • Minion QueenM
                              Minion Queen
                              last edited by

                              But cell phones in particular do not have a HARD reboot. Only a reset....

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @Minion Queen
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                                @Minion-Queen said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                But cell phones in particular do not have a HARD reboot. Only a reset....

                                On iPhone hold home and the lock button (pre iphone 7) to do so. No idea how it works on iPhone 7 yet.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @Minion Queen
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                                  @Minion-Queen said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                  But cell phones in particular do not have a HARD reboot. Only a reset....

                                  yeah - JB tried logicing me on Telegram about the hard reset coming from the ancient PC days when they had actual power switches, flipping is physically removed power from the system, aka a hard power down.

                                  I agree with Minion-Queen, short of removing the battery, phones don't have this option.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    factory reset wasn't really a thing with PCs until Apple did it with the Macs (no clue when they added that - boot to BIOS with enough information to get the NIC on the internet and redownload the image for the system).

                                    Windows still doesn't have this option.

                                    Windows does include a 'restore to original' option, but I don't think it's really as clean as a phone is. In other words, if I get a virus, I'm still wiping the Windows machine and reinstalling from external media, but with a phone, a factory reset, generally I haven't been concerned that a virus could survive that (but now it seems that some can).

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @Minion Queen
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                                      @Minion-Queen said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                      But cell phones in particular do not have a HARD reboot. Only a reset....

                                      Do iPhones not have a hard reset option? Every Android phone I've used has some option to do a hard reset in order to access the boot loader (of course, being me, I don't buy phones without that option.)

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @travisdh1
                                        last edited by Dashrender

                                        @travisdh1 said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                        @Minion-Queen said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                        But cell phones in particular do not have a HARD reboot. Only a reset....

                                        Do iPhones not have a hard reset option? Every Android phone I've used has some option to do a hard reset in order to access the boot loader (of course, being me, I don't buy phones without that option.)

                                        How is accessing the boot loader a hard reset? You have to cut power from the phone to get it to present the boot loader to you?

                                        Holding down the power and volume down buttons while power on is not the same as a hard reset, or even as a reboot.

                                        yes, I'm getting a little punchie now 🙂

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                          @Minion-Queen said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                          But cell phones in particular do not have a HARD reboot. Only a reset....

                                          Do iPhones not have a hard reset option? Every Android phone I've used has some option to do a hard reset in order to access the boot loader (of course, being me, I don't buy phones without that option.)

                                          How is accessing the boot loader a hard reset? You have to cut power from the phone to get it to present the boot loader to you?

                                          Holding down the power and volume down buttons while power on is not the same as a hard reset, or even as a reboot.

                                          yes, I'm getting a little punchie now 🙂

                                          Ok, granted. I AM on my first phone where the battery isn't removable tho. I actually need to get it's replacement put in.

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                                          • travisdh1T
                                            travisdh1 @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                            @Minion-Queen said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                            But cell phones in particular do not have a HARD reboot. Only a reset....

                                            yeah - JB tried logicing me on Telegram about the hard reset coming from the ancient PC days when they had actual power switches, flipping is physically removed power from the system, aka a hard power down.

                                            I agree with Minion-Queen, short of removing the battery, phones don't have this option.

                                            So remove the battery!

                                            Granted an ithing most likely has glue in it that makes this very, very difficult. I need to pop the back off my Nexus5 and replace the battery, so it's always possible, just not really feasible with some phones.

                                            Terminology remains the same, it doesn't change depending on weather it's possible for a device or not!

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