What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives
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We've experienced rather low HDD failures rates on desktops ... Plus, Cost/GB of SSD drives is way more than that of SSDs ... A 500GB SSD = $215 as opposed to $60 for a 500GB SATA (6 Gbps) makes it a "Not Worth it" for most .. We've almost never had a client requiring/requesting for a SSD for desktops .. A common response we've received is "Wow, that's a significant price difference. I would rather spend that extra $$ on RAM etc.."
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Do you find needing 500GB SSD? Ive rarely gone above 256 which are like 100 bucks.
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RAM won't improve system performance nearly as much as an SSD will, assuming you already have 4 GB of RAM, in a typical Office environment.
But as tiagom mentions, do you really need 500 GB drive? 120 GB drives are more than enough for most of my users. Windows 10, Office 2016, Dragon Medical v12 all fit in under 60 GB. my users save all data to network drives so the left over extra desktop space is not used.
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@tiagom said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
And when they do fail we just replace the machines, we do not bother with replacing since there are so old.
That has been my case as well, I have not been in IT for significant amount of time but the only two drives that I have seen fail I didn't have to replace because we already had a new server in place.
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@Dashrender said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
RAM won't improve system performance nearly as much as an SSD will, assuming you already have 4 GB of RAM, in a typical Office environment.
But as tiagom mentions, do you really need 500 GB drive? 120 GB drives are more than enough for most of my users. Windows 10, Office 2016, Dragon Medical v12 all fit in under 60 GB. my users save all data to network drives so the left over extra desktop space is not used.
Almost never, even with apps like Photoshop or AutoCAD installed ... In any case, I always prefer having around 30% of disk-space to be free ..
I'm just comparing cost/GB, which is typically how the pricing for storage works ..
Yes, SSDs do give a performance boost, but where desktops are concerned, when the client sees the price difference, they're willing to live without it ..
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Bought a few Intel 160GB drives refurbished on the egg for $38 each about a month ago. Made an old OptiPlex 3010 blazing fast for office work. Just waiting to put the rest in older machines to refresh them.
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Also I have never had a hdd fail on me at home. At work a few times over the years, but it is rare indeed. -
@momurda said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
Bought a few Intel 160GB drives refurbished on the egg for $38 each about a month ago. Made an old OptiPlex 3010 blazing fast for office work. Just waiting to put the rest in older machines to refresh them.
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Also I have never had a hdd fail on me at home. At work a few times over the years, but it is rare indeed.Wow that is cheap!
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@Dashrender said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
RAM won't improve system performance nearly as much as an SSD will, assuming you already have 4 GB of RAM, in a typical Office environment.
I find that even for browsing these days, I need 6GB. 4GB just can't do it.
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@Dashrender said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
But as tiagom mentions, do you really need 500 GB drive? 120 GB drives are more than enough for most of my users. Windows 10, Office 2016, Dragon Medical v12 all fit in under 60 GB. my users save all data to network drives so the left over extra desktop space is not used.
I dont even use that much myself!
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@scottalanmiller said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
@Dashrender said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
RAM won't improve system performance nearly as much as an SSD will, assuming you already have 4 GB of RAM, in a typical Office environment.
I find that even for browsing these days, I need 6GB. 4GB just can't do it.
But you are a power user. From what i see common office workers tend to rarely need more then 4GB.
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I purchased a 512GB scandisk SSD for $120 during some sale. At that price they are throwaways. I only bought it so i could improve performance on some test VM's on my laptop.
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@Dashrender said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
Hell I wish I could buy a machine without an HD from Dell or HP. then I could put my own SSD in, use the OEM media they should provide (on USB, please!) and install a CLEAN install of windows without their crapware. win WIn WIN!
Agreed. There is no sense, no need for a computer used for some word processing to have a TB drive. Just because drive tech is cheaper, doesn't mean you should have it.
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@tiagom said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
@scottalanmiller said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
@Dashrender said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
RAM won't improve system performance nearly as much as an SSD will, assuming you already have 4 GB of RAM, in a typical Office environment.
I find that even for browsing these days, I need 6GB. 4GB just can't do it.
But you are a power user. From what i see common office workers tend to rarely need more then 4GB.
Power user.... with nothing open but a web browser. Not much of a power user.
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How many tabs do you have open at a time?
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@tiagom said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
How many tabs do you have open at a time?
More than 20. But that's less than a casual user. Tabs open is one of those things that power users do less, not more, than casual users.
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@scottalanmiller said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
@tiagom said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
How many tabs do you have open at a time?
More than 20. But that's less than a casual user. Tabs open is one of those things that power users do less, not more, than casual users.
really?
I probably have 10+ tabs... but my users are abnormal if they have more than 3.
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@Dashrender said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
@scottalanmiller said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
@tiagom said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
How many tabs do you have open at a time?
More than 20. But that's less than a casual user. Tabs open is one of those things that power users do less, not more, than casual users.
really?
I probably have 10+ tabs... but my users are abnormal if they have more than 3.
I find the opposite, users tend to leave anything and everything open.
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@Dashrender said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
@scottalanmiller said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
@tiagom said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
How many tabs do you have open at a time?
More than 20. But that's less than a casual user. Tabs open is one of those things that power users do less, not more, than casual users.
really?
I probably have 10+ tabs... but my users are abnormal if they have more than 3.
Thats my experience as well.
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@scottalanmiller said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
@Dashrender said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
@scottalanmiller said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
@tiagom said in What If You Didn't Need to Replace Hard Drives:
How many tabs do you have open at a time?
More than 20. But that's less than a casual user. Tabs open is one of those things that power users do less, not more, than casual users.
really?
I probably have 10+ tabs... but my users are abnormal if they have more than 3.
I find the opposite, users tend to leave anything and everything open.
Most users in my office don't even understood what a tab is. When MS changed the way icons worked on the start bar, i.e. no longer opened a new window each time you click on it. They discovered that they can get a whole new window if they choose IE from the start menu on windows 7. This stopped working for Win 10 unless you pin IE to the start menu.
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I definitely never spend time or money replacing hard drives. This is not at all on my radar as a cost center.
