What Are You Doing Right Now
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Due to a super annoying chain of events, we are trapped in Miami for several days. Missed our flight yesterday because of the mountain of paperwork necessary to get on the plane and no one could get the other countries to send confirmation of paperwork fast enough. So we are trapped and the next flight is on Sunday!!
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That ultimately sucks. @scottalanmiller , is there anyway to do that a head of time to save you time in the future?
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Due to a super annoying chain of events, we are trapped in Miami for several days. Missed our flight yesterday because of the mountain of paperwork necessary to get on the plane and no one could get the other countries to send confirmation of paperwork fast enough. So we are trapped and the next flight is on Sunday!!
I've been trapped in worse places.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Due to a super annoying chain of events, we are trapped in Miami for several days. Missed our flight yesterday because of the mountain of paperwork necessary to get on the plane and no one could get the other countries to send confirmation of paperwork fast enough. So we are trapped and the next flight is on Sunday!!
Ouch - That is a great number of things.
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@scotth Are you familiar with Miami? Lots of nice culture and food places. The Miami Heat are on a roll and have a game tomorrow night you could visit too. Just go to Bayside, enjoy the food and atmosphere, roll over to Hardrock at the end and their new giant Ferris wheel to get a good view of Miami.
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@krzykat said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scotth Are you familiar with Miami? Lots of nice culture and food places. The Miami Heat are on a roll and have a game tomorrow night you could visit too. Just go to Bayside, enjoy the food and atmosphere, roll over to Hardrock at the end and their new giant Ferris wheel to get a good view of Miami.
Been here before but very little. Had to spend today getting COVID test done (again.) Tomorrow, though, we are driving to the Keys as we've never done that before.
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
That ultimately sucks. @scottalanmiller , is there anyway to do that a head of time to save you time in the future?
OMG, the details of the timing on COVID tests for some countries are insane. So here are the basics....
The COVID test has to be taken NO MORE than 72 hours before you LAND and get to the customs agent in the country you are entering (not all countries, but many and definitely this one.) You have to allow for potential delays in the flight, especially with the US having lots of weather delays this week. An average flight this week has to be at least 20 minutes late or more and a few hours isn't crazy. So for safety add at least three hours to protect against normal delay possibilities.
So if our flight is supposed to land at 5:30PM we have to assume 8:30PM is realistic (and given that customs can easily take 45 minutes, you have to add that in there, too.)
So 72 hours before that is 8:30PM last night (for us.) You can't control test timing that closely. At best you typically have about eight hours of control. For us, the test is SCHEDULED to come back to us at 6:30PM... no way for us to fine grain the control closer than that. But this only gives us the flexibility of traveling for about 20 hours of delay, not enough time to make another flight (flights are ever OTHER day in this case.)
Now the second requirement is that you have to upload your test to both the country AND the airline no LESS THAN 36 HOURS before the flight takes off. Not lands, takes off. So this is a much smaller window of time than it sounds like. Our flight is scheduled to take off at 3PM on Sunday (already delayed once by two hours making this all so much harder.)
That means that while we are getting our test back at 6:30PM, it HAS to be uploaded by 3AM tonight. Essentially no test center will give you tests at night, only during the day. So more or less, we got the only plausible time slot. In theory we could have done the test yesterday, but if we did that ANY delay in our flight would mean we got invalidated during the flight!! We could have done earlier today, but the tests all come back about the same time in the evening. The system is insane.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
That ultimately sucks. @scottalanmiller , is there anyway to do that a head of time to save you time in the future?
OMG, the details of the timing on COVID tests for some countries are insane. So here are the basics....
The COVID test has to be taken NO MORE than 72 hours before you LAND and get to the customs agent in the country you are entering (not all countries, but many and definitely this one.) You have to allow for potential delays in the flight, especially with the US having lots of weather delays this week. An average flight this week has to be at least 20 minutes late or more and a few hours isn't crazy. So for safety add at least three hours to protect against normal delay possibilities.
So if our flight is supposed to land at 5:30PM we have to assume 8:30PM is realistic (and given that customs can easily take 45 minutes, you have to add that in there, too.)
So 72 hours before that is 8:30PM last night (for us.) You can't control test timing that closely. At best you typically have about eight hours of control. For us, the test is SCHEDULED to come back to us at 6:30PM... no way for us to fine grain the control closer than that. But this only gives us the flexibility of traveling for about 20 hours of delay, not enough time to make another flight (flights are ever OTHER day in this case.)
Now the second requirement is that you have to upload your test to both the country AND the airline no LESS THAN 36 HOURS before the flight takes off. Not lands, takes off. So this is a much smaller window of time than it sounds like. Our flight is scheduled to take off at 3PM on Sunday (already delayed once by two hours making this all so much harder.)
That means that while we are getting our test back at 6:30PM, it HAS to be uploaded by 3AM tonight. Essentially no test center will give you tests at night, only during the day. So more or less, we got the only plausible time slot. In theory we could have done the test yesterday, but if we did that ANY delay in our flight would mean we got invalidated during the flight!! We could have done earlier today, but the tests all come back about the same time in the evening. The system is insane.
That alone sounds absolutely horrible..
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
That ultimately sucks. @scottalanmiller , is there anyway to do that a head of time to save you time in the future?
OMG, the details of the timing on COVID tests for some countries are insane. So here are the basics....
The COVID test has to be taken NO MORE than 72 hours before you LAND and get to the customs agent in the country you are entering (not all countries, but many and definitely this one.) You have to allow for potential delays in the flight, especially with the US having lots of weather delays this week. An average flight this week has to be at least 20 minutes late or more and a few hours isn't crazy. So for safety add at least three hours to protect against normal delay possibilities.
So if our flight is supposed to land at 5:30PM we have to assume 8:30PM is realistic (and given that customs can easily take 45 minutes, you have to add that in there, too.)
So 72 hours before that is 8:30PM last night (for us.) You can't control test timing that closely. At best you typically have about eight hours of control. For us, the test is SCHEDULED to come back to us at 6:30PM... no way for us to fine grain the control closer than that. But this only gives us the flexibility of traveling for about 20 hours of delay, not enough time to make another flight (flights are ever OTHER day in this case.)
Now the second requirement is that you have to upload your test to both the country AND the airline no LESS THAN 36 HOURS before the flight takes off. Not lands, takes off. So this is a much smaller window of time than it sounds like. Our flight is scheduled to take off at 3PM on Sunday (already delayed once by two hours making this all so much harder.)
That means that while we are getting our test back at 6:30PM, it HAS to be uploaded by 3AM tonight. Essentially no test center will give you tests at night, only during the day. So more or less, we got the only plausible time slot. In theory we could have done the test yesterday, but if we did that ANY delay in our flight would mean we got invalidated during the flight!! We could have done earlier today, but the tests all come back about the same time in the evening. The system is insane.
This process makes me want to just drive . . . god the hours to drive,.. and the fueling,.. and ugh... just put a fork in me. Or - just by a boat and well ,.. you are still going to have to deal with fuel and (erp) things... sigh.
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@krzykat I am. I was a resident of the Gold Coast from 1979-1988. Miami Beach, Hallendale, Lake Forest, Pemproke Pines, Ft. Lauderdale. My oldest was born at Plantation General.
I was going to suggest for Scott to go to South Beach and grab some Joe's Stone Crabs, that's if they like shellfish.
One of the things I miss most is fresh seafood. There's no substitute for it.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Been here before but very little. Had to spend today getting COVID test done (again.) Tomorrow, though, we are driving to the Keys as we've never done that before.
Hopefully weather clears up tomorrow for you. Yes Key Largo and John Pennecamp would probably be a big hit for you and family and its not that far.
Going all the way to Key West is cool - but not as kid friendly and more of a bar/drinking hanging out place, plus its an extra 2 hour drive. Can't go wrong in the keys though. Nice and relaxing.
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@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
One of the things I miss most is fresh seafood. There's no substitute for it.
Of that - there is no lie... I miss Chesapeake Bay Blue Crabs -
We used to fish (crab) off the pier growing up,..
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@krzykat said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Been here before but very little. Had to spend today getting COVID test done (again.) Tomorrow, though, we are driving to the Keys as we've never done that before.
Hopefully weather clears up tomorrow for you. Yes Key Largo and John Pennecamp would probably be a big hit for you and family and its not that far.
Going all the way to Key West is cool - but not as kid friendly and more of a bar/drinking hanging out place, plus its an extra 2 hour drive. Can't go wrong in the keys though. Nice and relaxing.
Sadly no time (or miles on the rental) to do Key West. WOuld love to. Not a Hemmighway fan but still would go see the house and stuff.
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@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
That ultimately sucks. @scottalanmiller , is there anyway to do that a head of time to save you time in the future?
OMG, the details of the timing on COVID tests for some countries are insane. So here are the basics....
The COVID test has to be taken NO MORE than 72 hours before you LAND and get to the customs agent in the country you are entering (not all countries, but many and definitely this one.) You have to allow for potential delays in the flight, especially with the US having lots of weather delays this week. An average flight this week has to be at least 20 minutes late or more and a few hours isn't crazy. So for safety add at least three hours to protect against normal delay possibilities.
So if our flight is supposed to land at 5:30PM we have to assume 8:30PM is realistic (and given that customs can easily take 45 minutes, you have to add that in there, too.)
So 72 hours before that is 8:30PM last night (for us.) You can't control test timing that closely. At best you typically have about eight hours of control. For us, the test is SCHEDULED to come back to us at 6:30PM... no way for us to fine grain the control closer than that. But this only gives us the flexibility of traveling for about 20 hours of delay, not enough time to make another flight (flights are ever OTHER day in this case.)
Now the second requirement is that you have to upload your test to both the country AND the airline no LESS THAN 36 HOURS before the flight takes off. Not lands, takes off. So this is a much smaller window of time than it sounds like. Our flight is scheduled to take off at 3PM on Sunday (already delayed once by two hours making this all so much harder.)
That means that while we are getting our test back at 6:30PM, it HAS to be uploaded by 3AM tonight. Essentially no test center will give you tests at night, only during the day. So more or less, we got the only plausible time slot. In theory we could have done the test yesterday, but if we did that ANY delay in our flight would mean we got invalidated during the flight!! We could have done earlier today, but the tests all come back about the same time in the evening. The system is insane.
This process makes me want to just drive . . . god the hours to drive,.. and the fueling,.. and ugh... just put a fork in me. Or - just by a boat and well ,.. you are still going to have to deal with fuel and (erp) things... sigh.
Only problem with that is, no road goes all the way from North America to South America. I think it's the mountains of Panama that has no roads. It's been driven, but there are way more cars abandoned along the trail than ever made it.
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@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
That ultimately sucks. @scottalanmiller , is there anyway to do that a head of time to save you time in the future?
OMG, the details of the timing on COVID tests for some countries are insane. So here are the basics....
The COVID test has to be taken NO MORE than 72 hours before you LAND and get to the customs agent in the country you are entering (not all countries, but many and definitely this one.) You have to allow for potential delays in the flight, especially with the US having lots of weather delays this week. An average flight this week has to be at least 20 minutes late or more and a few hours isn't crazy. So for safety add at least three hours to protect against normal delay possibilities.
So if our flight is supposed to land at 5:30PM we have to assume 8:30PM is realistic (and given that customs can easily take 45 minutes, you have to add that in there, too.)
So 72 hours before that is 8:30PM last night (for us.) You can't control test timing that closely. At best you typically have about eight hours of control. For us, the test is SCHEDULED to come back to us at 6:30PM... no way for us to fine grain the control closer than that. But this only gives us the flexibility of traveling for about 20 hours of delay, not enough time to make another flight (flights are ever OTHER day in this case.)
Now the second requirement is that you have to upload your test to both the country AND the airline no LESS THAN 36 HOURS before the flight takes off. Not lands, takes off. So this is a much smaller window of time than it sounds like. Our flight is scheduled to take off at 3PM on Sunday (already delayed once by two hours making this all so much harder.)
That means that while we are getting our test back at 6:30PM, it HAS to be uploaded by 3AM tonight. Essentially no test center will give you tests at night, only during the day. So more or less, we got the only plausible time slot. In theory we could have done the test yesterday, but if we did that ANY delay in our flight would mean we got invalidated during the flight!! We could have done earlier today, but the tests all come back about the same time in the evening. The system is insane.
This process makes me want to just drive . . . god the hours to drive,.. and the fueling,.. and ugh... just put a fork in me. Or - just by a boat and well ,.. you are still going to have to deal with fuel and (erp) things... sigh.
Only problem with that is, no road goes all the way from North America to South America. I think it's the mountains of Panama that has no roads. It's been driven, but there are way more cars abandoned along the trail than ever made it.
THat's correct, but Nicaragua is on this side of South America. So you can totally drive. Panama's Darien Gap is the jungle, not the mountains. The mountains are well paved.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
That ultimately sucks. @scottalanmiller , is there anyway to do that a head of time to save you time in the future?
OMG, the details of the timing on COVID tests for some countries are insane. So here are the basics....
The COVID test has to be taken NO MORE than 72 hours before you LAND and get to the customs agent in the country you are entering (not all countries, but many and definitely this one.) You have to allow for potential delays in the flight, especially with the US having lots of weather delays this week. An average flight this week has to be at least 20 minutes late or more and a few hours isn't crazy. So for safety add at least three hours to protect against normal delay possibilities.
So if our flight is supposed to land at 5:30PM we have to assume 8:30PM is realistic (and given that customs can easily take 45 minutes, you have to add that in there, too.)
So 72 hours before that is 8:30PM last night (for us.) You can't control test timing that closely. At best you typically have about eight hours of control. For us, the test is SCHEDULED to come back to us at 6:30PM... no way for us to fine grain the control closer than that. But this only gives us the flexibility of traveling for about 20 hours of delay, not enough time to make another flight (flights are ever OTHER day in this case.)
Now the second requirement is that you have to upload your test to both the country AND the airline no LESS THAN 36 HOURS before the flight takes off. Not lands, takes off. So this is a much smaller window of time than it sounds like. Our flight is scheduled to take off at 3PM on Sunday (already delayed once by two hours making this all so much harder.)
That means that while we are getting our test back at 6:30PM, it HAS to be uploaded by 3AM tonight. Essentially no test center will give you tests at night, only during the day. So more or less, we got the only plausible time slot. In theory we could have done the test yesterday, but if we did that ANY delay in our flight would mean we got invalidated during the flight!! We could have done earlier today, but the tests all come back about the same time in the evening. The system is insane.
This process makes me want to just drive . . . god the hours to drive,.. and the fueling,.. and ugh... just put a fork in me. Or - just by a boat and well ,.. you are still going to have to deal with fuel and (erp) things... sigh.
Only problem with that is, no road goes all the way from North America to South America. I think it's the mountains of Panama that has no roads. It's been driven, but there are way more cars abandoned along the trail than ever made it.
THat's correct, but Nicaragua is on this side of South America. So you can totally drive. Panama's Darien Gap is the jungle, not the mountains. The mountains are well paved.
I had to go back to Google Maps and look as my geography is ... well never mind.
You can drive all the way to Panama City - so driving to local Miller Beach wouldn't be to much of an issue.... Except for:
- Covid19 Travel restrictions as you cross several countries
- it's over 3,000km
- it's roughly a 45 hour drive, not including required stops and delays as you cross boundaries
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@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
That ultimately sucks. @scottalanmiller , is there anyway to do that a head of time to save you time in the future?
OMG, the details of the timing on COVID tests for some countries are insane. So here are the basics....
The COVID test has to be taken NO MORE than 72 hours before you LAND and get to the customs agent in the country you are entering (not all countries, but many and definitely this one.) You have to allow for potential delays in the flight, especially with the US having lots of weather delays this week. An average flight this week has to be at least 20 minutes late or more and a few hours isn't crazy. So for safety add at least three hours to protect against normal delay possibilities.
So if our flight is supposed to land at 5:30PM we have to assume 8:30PM is realistic (and given that customs can easily take 45 minutes, you have to add that in there, too.)
So 72 hours before that is 8:30PM last night (for us.) You can't control test timing that closely. At best you typically have about eight hours of control. For us, the test is SCHEDULED to come back to us at 6:30PM... no way for us to fine grain the control closer than that. But this only gives us the flexibility of traveling for about 20 hours of delay, not enough time to make another flight (flights are ever OTHER day in this case.)
Now the second requirement is that you have to upload your test to both the country AND the airline no LESS THAN 36 HOURS before the flight takes off. Not lands, takes off. So this is a much smaller window of time than it sounds like. Our flight is scheduled to take off at 3PM on Sunday (already delayed once by two hours making this all so much harder.)
That means that while we are getting our test back at 6:30PM, it HAS to be uploaded by 3AM tonight. Essentially no test center will give you tests at night, only during the day. So more or less, we got the only plausible time slot. In theory we could have done the test yesterday, but if we did that ANY delay in our flight would mean we got invalidated during the flight!! We could have done earlier today, but the tests all come back about the same time in the evening. The system is insane.
This process makes me want to just drive . . . god the hours to drive,.. and the fueling,.. and ugh... just put a fork in me. Or - just by a boat and well ,.. you are still going to have to deal with fuel and (erp) things... sigh.
Only problem with that is, no road goes all the way from North America to South America. I think it's the mountains of Panama that has no roads. It's been driven, but there are way more cars abandoned along the trail than ever made it.
THat's correct, but Nicaragua is on this side of South America. So you can totally drive. Panama's Darien Gap is the jungle, not the mountains. The mountains are well paved.
I had to go back to Google Maps and look as my geography is ... well never mind.
You can drive all the way to Panama City - so driving to local Miller Beach wouldn't be to much of an issue.... Except for:
- Covid19 Travel restrictions as you cross several countries
- it's over 3,000km
- it's roughly a 45 hour drive, not including required stops and delays as you cross boundaries
Other than the annoying COVID stuff at the borders, it's not bad at all. We meet people all of the time that have done it. We almost did it.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Due to a super annoying chain of events, we are trapped in Miami for several days. Missed our flight yesterday because of the mountain of paperwork necessary to get on the plane and no one could get the other countries to send confirmation of paperwork fast enough. So we are trapped and the next flight is on Sunday!!
I'll be in west palm tomorrow
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Due to a super annoying chain of events, we are trapped in Miami for several days. Missed our flight yesterday because of the mountain of paperwork necessary to get on the plane and no one could get the other countries to send confirmation of paperwork fast enough. So we are trapped and the next flight is on Sunday!!
I'll be in west palm tomorrow
For real? What for?
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listening to otis rush as I work on a saturdee mooornin.