What Are You Doing Right Now
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@nadnerb said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@siringo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@notverypunny said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just got jab#1.
think my wife told me we've had 11 blood clots in Oz in the past 1-2 weeks!
@nadnerB may be able to correct me????
I thought that was all up… but I haven’t paid a lot of attention to what the actual number are. Just that it’s happening
Personally, risk of clots or other complications doesn't outweigh the benefits of staying alive.... And COVID vaccines are far from the only cause of clots, I don't see too many people being reluctant to travel, get pregnant or take birth control because of a risk of clots.... https://familydoctor.org/condition/blood-clots/ An interesting statistic posted by a friend shows that the risks of clotting from hormone-based birth control are many times higher than the observed rates of issues from vaccines.
Just some food for thought and some comparative context.
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@notverypunny some more food for thought...
I'm not getting a vaccination for something that literally poses no real threat to me or 99.9% of the world.
Sure, I'll vaccinate against polio or smallpox for example because most people who get that would be fucked. No argument there. But for the flu or covid? Wtf?
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Sending an email to Ksger on why I can't get some tips working
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@obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@notverypunny some more food for thought...
I'm not getting a vaccination for something that literally poses no real threat to me or 99.9% of the world.
Sure, I'll vaccinate against polio or smallpox for example because most people who get that would be fucked. No argument there. But for the flu or covid? Wtf?
While personally I have no worries about COVID either, it's killed family members for us, and nearly killed staff. We've had people in the hospital for over a month with COVID (he's back and okay now) that we nearly lost. It poses a real risk to people, mostly at random. The problem with not getting the vaccine is not that you are or are not potentially at grave risk, but that only if we all get the vaccine do we protect those who are at risk, and it's a large number of people including young, healthy people.
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I've been mostly offline this week. Driving across the country from Texas to NY. In NY now, but only until Wednesday, ugh. Have to drive NY to Miami. I'm so tired.
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With the new update stats work again, and we can see that we are on 4.4 million views a month in the app now! Busier than we've been in a while.
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Our hotel is harvesting coconuts from our own trees today!
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Trying to get our COVID testing scheduled in Orlando.
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Been so busy that we are running weekend interviews!
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Tried out v2 of my VESA microscope mount.
98% better, only problem made the screwing screw holes to small. But a quick drill will solve that. -
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@notverypunny some more food for thought...
I'm not getting a vaccination for something that literally poses no real threat to me or 99.9% of the world.
Sure, I'll vaccinate against polio or smallpox for example because most people who get that would be fucked. No argument there. But for the flu or covid? Wtf?
While personally I have no worries about COVID either, it's killed family members for us, and nearly killed staff. We've had people in the hospital for over a month with COVID (he's back and okay now) that we nearly lost. It poses a real risk to people, mostly at random. The problem with not getting the vaccine is not that you are or are not potentially at grave risk, but that only if we all get the vaccine do we protect those who are at risk, and it's a large number of people including young, healthy people.
Then those at risk of covid issues should get vaccinated for themselves. If you are worried about covid issues, get vaccinated. If someone is at risk or worried about covid, then by all means they should get vaccinated for themselves. I shouldn't have to get vaccinated for them when they can vaccinate themself. If they vaccinate, it doesn't matter then if I do.
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@obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@notverypunny some more food for thought...
I'm not getting a vaccination for something that literally poses no real threat to me or 99.9% of the world.
Sure, I'll vaccinate against polio or smallpox for example because most people who get that would be fucked. No argument there. But for the flu or covid? Wtf?
While personally I have no worries about COVID either, it's killed family members for us, and nearly killed staff. We've had people in the hospital for over a month with COVID (he's back and okay now) that we nearly lost. It poses a real risk to people, mostly at random. The problem with not getting the vaccine is not that you are or are not potentially at grave risk, but that only if we all get the vaccine do we protect those who are at risk, and it's a large number of people including young, healthy people.
Then those at risk of covid issues should get vaccinated for themselves. If you are worried about covid issues, get vaccinated. If someone is at risk or worried about covid, then by all means they should get vaccinated for themselves. I shouldn't have to get vaccinated for them when they can vaccinate themself. If they vaccinate, it doesn't matter then if I do.
Not everyone has access to vaccines. TONS of people can't get them. You're logic only works if vaccines are fullproof (or effectively so) and universally available (which we aren't even close to.)
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Not everyone has access to vaccines.
Everywhere I go, they do.
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@obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Not everyone has access to vaccines.
Everywhere I go, they do.
Are they places where people are paid a lot more than the average income?
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@nadnerb said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Not everyone has access to vaccines.
Everywhere I go, they do.
Are they places where people are paid a lot more than the average income?
In the US the vaccine is free, which is where I am and where I go.
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What's with the blue line?
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@obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nadnerb said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Not everyone has access to vaccines.
Everywhere I go, they do.
Are they places where people are paid a lot more than the average income?
In the US the vaccine is free, which is where I am and where I go.
Not in the US. I know people still waiting for access. But the US isn't the only country around. Loads of countries don't have it yet. And no safe option available for small children yet. We can't get our kids vaccinated yet in the US. So where you are and go is where my kids are at risk without an available option.
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In the US the vaccines are only authorized for those 16 and older. There is belief that 12 and older will be available soon. But not yet and not below 12, while Brazil is seeing high infection rates in infants.
Texas is one of the fastest vaccination available states and there I was only able to be almost vaccinated because I'm older and in a higher risk group. And my group while having got the shots hasn't had time to be fully protected yet. So anyone in the under 65 group in Texas (and therefore most of the country) is just started to be vaccinated and general population is near zero.
And we were trying hard to find shots. Until six weeks ago we knew so few people able to gett he shots that it didn't even seem like they really had them.
While free, at least in much if the US, it's not the same as being fully available. Not that they aren't doing a good job, but society is in this together, there is no one that doesn't affect everyone.
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@scottalanmiller around here (Atlanta/Gwinnett) they can barely give vaccines away. Tons of pop up, large scale vax stations, most drug stores, grocery stores (that have a pharmacy), health departments, and so many others. I feel like if I were walking around anywhere along my commute to work, someone would throw vaccines at me as I passed by. So if you're seeing a shortage, head south, we got it working.
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@obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@notverypunny some more food for thought...
I'm not getting a vaccination for something that literally poses no real threat to me or 99.9% of the world.
Sure, I'll vaccinate against polio or smallpox for example because most people who get that would be fucked. No argument there. But for the flu or covid? Wtf?
Have you been able to see or read any info on what COVID can leave you with? It may not kill you but it can screw up your organs & shorten your life. Is your brain an organ? Anyway, it can also affect your brain function.
There's an after effect they call Long COVID in which people suffer many symptoms which linger for months after you've been cleared of COVID. This could keep you off work for as long as you have it.
The vaccine's don't stop you getting it, it just makes the symptoms less severe.
You mention you believe it poses no real threat to you. Have you contracted COVID yet? Have you contracted a bad bout of COVID yet? Until you do, you won't know if you're immune to it or not? It may kill you, you won't know until you see how your body can defend itself against it..
If the vaccine is free for you to get and you can get it, I don't understand why you'd put yourself at risk? You can rely on your ears to listen for traffic when you cross the road, but I bet you always look. The vaccine's the same, you can take the gamble and not get it, but why wouldn't you?
Not being confrontational here, just carrying on a discussion, that's all.
