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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @coliver
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      @coliver intentional 😄

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      • brandon220B
        brandon220
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        Wondering why KVM is the flavor of the month but not for production because of backup options....

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @brandon220
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          @brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          Wondering why KVM is the flavor of the month but not for production because of backup options....

          Backups are easy, just because nobody has already scripted everything for you.... I'm working on putting something together, but don't expect it soon.

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          • black3dynamiteB
            black3dynamite @brandon220
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            @brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            Wondering why KVM is the flavor of the month but not for production because of backup options....

            Besides the lack of backup options like incremental VM backups. Open source, free, flexible, etc...

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            • brandon220B
              brandon220
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              See https://mangolassi.it/topic/16067/nextcloud-scenario as my basis for the question.....

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @black3dynamite
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                @black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                Wondering why KVM is the flavor of the month but not for production because of backup options....

                Besides the lack of backup options like incremental VM backups. Open source, free, flexible, etc...

                That's all available already, just normal file level backups. You just have to do some scripting to create a snapshot before doing the backup and remove it after.

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                • brandon220B
                  brandon220
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                  I guess most of us have been spoiled with Veeam and assume it should all be easy.

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @black3dynamite
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                    @black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    Wondering why KVM is the flavor of the month but not for production because of backup options....

                    Besides the lack of backup options like incremental VM backups. Open source, free, flexible, etc...

                    If you want great, solid, do-it-with-your-eyes-closed enterprise level backup, you need to pay money, no matter your hypervisor. It's as simple as that.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @brandon220
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                      @brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      I guess most of us have been spoiled with Veeam and assume it should all be easy.

                      Veeam, Xen Orchestra... really everything. . .

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
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                        @tim_g said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        Wondering why KVM is the flavor of the month but not for production because of backup options....

                        Besides the lack of backup options like incremental VM backups. Open source, free, flexible, etc...

                        If you want great, solid, do-it-with-your-eyes-closed enterprise level backup, you need to pay money, no matter your hypervisor. It's as simple as that.

                        Cough cough... xen orchestra cough cough!

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                        • black3dynamiteB
                          black3dynamite @Obsolesce
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                          @tim_g said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          Wondering why KVM is the flavor of the month but not for production because of backup options....

                          Besides the lack of backup options like incremental VM backups. Open source, free, flexible, etc...

                          If you want great, solid, do-it-with-your-eyes-closed enterprise level backup, you need to pay money, no matter your hypervisor. It's as simple as that.

                          I have no problem with paying for backups.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @DustinB3403
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                            @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @tim_g said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            Wondering why KVM is the flavor of the month but not for production because of backup options....

                            Besides the lack of backup options like incremental VM backups. Open source, free, flexible, etc...

                            If you want great, solid, do-it-with-your-eyes-closed enterprise level backup, you need to pay money, no matter your hypervisor. It's as simple as that.

                            Cough cough... xen orchestra cough cough!

                            Well if Xen is your forté, and you can justify not using a better option, go for it.

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                            • black3dynamiteB
                              black3dynamite @travisdh1
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                              @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              Wondering why KVM is the flavor of the month but not for production because of backup options....

                              Besides the lack of backup options like incremental VM backups. Open source, free, flexible, etc...

                              That's all available already, just normal file level backups. You just have to do some scripting to create a snapshot before doing the backup and remove it after.

                              When creating a snapshot, would it be best to pause the VM first and then create snapshots and then resume?

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @black3dynamite
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                                @black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                Wondering why KVM is the flavor of the month but not for production because of backup options....

                                Besides the lack of backup options like incremental VM backups. Open source, free, flexible, etc...

                                That's all available already, just normal file level backups. You just have to do some scripting to create a snapshot before doing the backup and remove it after.

                                When creating a snapshot, would it be best to pause the VM first and then create snapshots and then resume?

                                That is the recommended approach, and what all snapshot mechanisms do.

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                                • brandon220B
                                  brandon220
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                                  I've done a ton of exports in Hyper-V but no snapshots.

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @brandon220
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                                    @brandon220 Opposite of me

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce
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                                      My favourite backup solution is SCDPM (for the Hyper-V world), but it's so expensive, making most other paid options way better.

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                                      • brandon220B
                                        brandon220 @wirestyle22
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                                        @wirestyle22 I always do exports to external drives as another disaster recovery copy and then take to another location.

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @brandon220
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                                          @brandon220 I've done one P2V migration

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                                          • thwrT
                                            thwr @Obsolesce
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                                            @tim_g said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            My favourite backup solution is SCDPM (for the Hyper-V world), but it's so expensive, making most other paid options way better.

                                            And it's anything but reliable. Ok, that's not exactly true, but it's definitely nothing you want to run as a small shop. I still remember tons of cryptic errors in 2012 and 2012r2

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