What Are You Doing Right Now
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@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Got another random muting. For this thread... the post about how did the guy come up with FreeNAS or very out of date Windows that got 35 up votes... that got me muted?
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1958428-freenas-vs-windows-server
Clearly public opinion is not popular with someone.
I wonder how big of a sh*tstorm you would cause if you suddenly stopped posting completely... just disappear one day and watch the backlash.
LOL, huge or... maybe no one would notice.
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@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Got another random muting. For this thread... the post about how did the guy come up with FreeNAS or very out of date Windows that got 35 up votes... that got me muted?
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1958428-freenas-vs-windows-server
Clearly public opinion is not popular with someone.
I wonder how big of a sh*tstorm you would cause if you suddenly stopped posting completely... just disappear one day and watch the backlash.
Sadly, I think the answer would be, not many would even take note. The "uality" of advice would reach Dilbertian proportions.
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I just quit messing with Spiceworks altogether, both at the community and in the application. The last update broke device-owner relationships and it seemed that Support didn't care. I had posted last Wednesday and they didn't bother to answer/acknowledge the post until Monday. Either due to lack of people there or low morale.
When they did respond, they didn't offer to remote in and look at the problem, but was confronted with (I'm not getting other reports and I'm not able to reproduce the problem) kind of thing. I am not too concerned with restoring the data as we're moving to another platform and almost to the point of not needing it anymore.
Kind of lost hope and faith in Spiceworks, as a company.
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@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Kind of lost hope and faith in Spiceworks, as a company.
It's really sad that so many people are leaving Spiceworks due to so many fixable problems. Interestingly, it's all the fault of the CEO because that's where all blame eventually lies in a company, despite the 3 envelope joke. Since we know that Jay has a marketing background, it's super obvious to see why things are failing at a company that, at it's core and slogan, was designed for IT. They've shifted to marketing their mistake, the community, and it's clearly hurting them. I predict that, unless Jay realizes that his boat is headed for Davy Jones' Locker, that ship is going to sink before anyone realizes it, if it hasn't already. People are already leaving the app and community in rafts and competitors like ManageEngine are just cheering.
At the very least, we can thank them for bringing people like Scott and most of the people in this community together. I hope that MangoCon picks up steam and is a viable event to replace SpiceWorld when it finishes circling the drain.
Should we start a deadpool on their community?
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@Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
...it's super obvious to see why things are failing at a company that, at it's core and slogan, was designed for IT.
Actually it was a marketing company from day one. The IT was just happenstance that that is where they decided that there was a marketing opportunity. It's like a normal magazine, sure people think of the magazine in the context of its content, but the magazine is really just a vehicle for the ads. That's what SW is and was meant to be from creation time - an advertising vehicle. That the ads are focused on IT was just because that is where they figured out a unique niche that others had not taken advantage of yet. But they are a marketing company and were from the moment that they started. Nothing wrong with that, but the belief that they are an IT company (which is really far from what they are) or a software company (you can make a point here, but their software is not their business, it's ancillary and it isn't their strength) has disillusioned a lot of people because they don't behave like either of those and don't have the expertise, market knowledge and such that people expect, but it is a false expectation. If you think of them as a marketing company, they basically make sense from the beginning.
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@Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Kind of lost hope and faith in Spiceworks, as a company.
It's really sad that so many people are leaving Spiceworks due to so many fixable problems. Interestingly, it's all the fault of the CEO because that's where all blame eventually lies in a company, despite the 3 envelope joke. Since we know that Jay has a marketing background, it's super obvious to see why things are failing at a company that, at it's core and slogan, was designed for IT. They've shifted to marketing their mistake, the community, and it's clearly hurting them. I predict that, unless Jay realizes that his boat is headed for Davy Jones' Locker, that ship is going to sink before anyone realizes it, if it hasn't already. People are already leaving the app and community in rafts and competitors like ManageEngine are just cheering.
At the very least, we can thank them for bringing people like Scott and most of the people in this community together. I hope that MangoCon picks up steam and is a viable event to replace SpiceWorld when it finishes circling the drain.
Should we start a deadpool on their community?
It was once a good community with people that I could learn from and ask for help if having problems. At one time, I could go to the community and learn something new about real world problems and some best practices, such as why not to use RAID5 with the exception of SSDs.
Application was good (not great), especially for the price tag. You paid for it through the advertisements, but they made money either way. Devices scanned well along with associations. Network Monitor never really worked for me well, but I figured that it was probably more of my environment and less on the product.
Then within the last year or 2, it was like, they weren't focused on the application anymore and began focusing on cloud products and tools. The tones and mood of the community started to subtly change. CTRL+ALT+TECH went away with no notice or reason. On The Air started to get very cheesy and just hard to watch with all of the bad cliches. We started to see the same questions come back around every so often, usually because the poster believed that their environment was too uniquely different to comply with best practices and thought that they were more of the exception than the norm. As time progressed, questions and posts were becoming the same over and over again and nothing was really grabbing my attention anymore. I started to answer the daily question just to keep my streak up and that would be all that I would do within the community. Then there was the layoff. Not a good day.
One day, I finally run into @scottalanmiller and was able to finally understand what was going on behind the scenes, as if he pulled the curtain revealing the wizard. And he eventually introduced me to ML when I was having a problem with a SAN 3 months ago.
The updates for the on-premise application seemed to get further and further apart. For a while it was like, every other week, then once a month, and eventually once every 3-months. This last update shows me that they are more compromising their application in order to either get them to the cloud or find something else. Plus, November's outage was not a good indicator on their part either. They were not following best practices when they're trying to teach us best practices. They failed to communicate except for through key people such as Scott via ML.
Since that day I met Scott at the Spicecorps meeting, we have been on the search for another helpdesk/asset management system. and have finally settled on one that fits our needs.
Its sad to see Spiceworks go down this path, but this is like watching your friend drink them self to death after you've tried to warn them to not go down that path.
Scott, you are absolutely right. It is a marketing company that centers around IT. It was hard for me to see it as I was wondering why a software company sells advertising. Sometimes its just difficult to get around the stones that are right in front of our noses.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Actually it was a marketing company from day one. The IT was just happenstance that that is where they decided that there was a marketing opportunity.
You can only call it happenstance that when they looked at marketing niches they found SMB IT as a good one. But that was prior to even forming the company.
From the day the company was founded, it was designed around advertising to IT through their free software.
@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Scott, you are absolutely right. It is a marketing company that centers around IT. It was hard for me to see it as I was wondering why a software company sells advertising. Sometimes its just difficult to get around the stones that are right in front of our noses.
I completely cannot understand how people do not see this. It is not even something they hide. So many people simply "drink the koolaid" as they saying goes.
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@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Actually it was a marketing company from day one. The IT was just happenstance that that is where they decided that there was a marketing opportunity.
You can only call it happenstance that when they looked at marketing niches they found SMB IT as a good one. But that was prior to even forming the company.
From the day the company was founded, it was designed around advertising to IT through their free software.
Happenstance that when they looked at opportunities, IT is where one was. It was good planning and strategy, but that it turned out to be IT was kinda random. It's not an IT company that found a way to market, it's a marketing company that connects sellers to IT buyers.
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@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Scott, you are absolutely right. It is a marketing company that centers around IT. It was hard for me to see it as I was wondering why a software company sells advertising. Sometimes its just difficult to get around the stones that are right in front of our noses.
I completely cannot understand how people do not see this. It is not even something they hide. So many people simply "drink the koolaid" as they saying goes.
I agree, the really weird bit is that it isn't their koolaid, it's some assumed koolaid that even SW never mixed up for anyone.
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Good morning, mangoes.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Good morning, mangoes.
If we're the mangoes, what are you?
Also morn'in!
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As I've mentioned, I'm learning pixel art in addition to Gamemaker Studio in the hopes of making my own video game.
I've been making pretty good progress with my pixel art. It's only been a few months.
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Windows are open here, the weather is so nice.
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Morning all y'all!
What time zone are you in @scottalanmiller ?
Windows will be open here later this afternoon.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Windows are open here, the weather is so nice.
What is this nice weather that you speak of?
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
As I've mentioned, I'm learning pixel art in addition to Gamemaker Studio in the hopes of making my own video game.
I've been making pretty good progress with my pixel art. It's only been a few months.
Schnazzy.
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@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Windows are open here, the weather is so nice.
What is this nice weather that you speak of?
We left ehh weather in TX to come home to niceish weather (for January) here. To WINTER crud
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Morning all y'all!
What time zone are you in @scottalanmiller ?
Windows will be open here later this afternoon.
GMT +1 (Western Europe)
