What Are You Doing Right Now
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@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an
It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.
IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.
I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!
Slippery slope, there.
Which is why we call that a logical fallacy. It prevents us from having a reasonable discussion when people immediately assume the worst.
When government is at the helm, only an idiot would not assume the worst. It's the only thing they know how to do consistently.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an
It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.
IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.
I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!
Slippery slope, there.
No more than anything else.. but no less either.
Actually less than the current situation. It's slipperier now.
I think the point was missed. The "slippery slope" is that once you create the precedent that it's okay to tax to offer "free stuff to everyone", it can quickly become an open door to tax more and more, as long as the money goes to give something to everyone. That's scary. There is an awful lot of stuff that someone can "justify" as important for everyone, and then we all have to pay for it.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
...and do some Pokemon Hunting on the way to vote.And that is what is wrong with this country, folks.
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@art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an
It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.
IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.
I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!
Slippery slope, there.
No more than anything else.. but no less either.
Actually less than the current situation. It's slipperier now.
I think the point was missed. The "slippery slope" is that once you create the precedent that it's okay to tax to offer "free stuff to everyone", it can quickly become an open door to tax more and more, as long as the money goes to give something to everyone. That's scary. There is an awful lot of stuff that someone can "justify" as important for everyone, and then we all have to pay for it.
But that's not a slippery slope. It's a necessary thing that everyone already needs and already has to pay for (tax) that would just be shifted from a bizarre "you figure it out" system to a centralized one.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an
It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.
IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.
I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!
Slippery slope, there.
No more than anything else.. but no less either.
Actually less than the current situation. It's slipperier now.
I think the point was missed. The "slippery slope" is that once you create the precedent that it's okay to tax to offer "free stuff to everyone", it can quickly become an open door to tax more and more, as long as the money goes to give something to everyone. That's scary. There is an awful lot of stuff that someone can "justify" as important for everyone, and then we all have to pay for it.
But that's not a slippery slope. It's a necessary thing that everyone already needs and already has to pay for (tax) that would just be shifted from a bizarre "you figure it out" system to a centralized one.
The concept, not this isolated case.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an
It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.
IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.
I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!
Slippery slope, there.
No more than anything else.. but no less either.
Actually less than the current situation. It's slipperier now.
I think the point was missed. The "slippery slope" is that once you create the precedent that it's okay to tax to offer "free stuff to everyone", it can quickly become an open door to tax more and more, as long as the money goes to give something to everyone. That's scary. There is an awful lot of stuff that someone can "justify" as important for everyone, and then we all have to pay for it.
But that's not a slippery slope. It's a necessary thing that everyone already needs and already has to pay for (tax) that would just be shifted from a bizarre "you figure it out" system to a centralized one.
@art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
The concept, not this isolated case.
Exactly... Although, in Scott's defense, at the moment I can't think of a think (though I'm sure they are there) that has gone over the top since passing what looks like a reasonable law in the first place.
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Can't think of a think, huh?
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an
It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.
IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.
I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!
Slippery slope, there.
No more than anything else.. but no less either.
Actually less than the current situation. It's slipperier now.
I think the point was missed. The "slippery slope" is that once you create the precedent that it's okay to tax to offer "free stuff to everyone", it can quickly become an open door to tax more and more, as long as the money goes to give something to everyone. That's scary. There is an awful lot of stuff that someone can "justify" as important for everyone, and then we all have to pay for it.
But that's not a slippery slope. It's a necessary thing that everyone already needs and already has to pay for (tax) that would just be shifted from a bizarre "you figure it out" system to a centralized one.
@art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
The concept, not this isolated case.
Exactly... Although, in Scott's defense, at the moment I can't think of a think (though I'm sure they are there) that has gone over the top since passing what looks like a reasonable law in the first place.
That would be the law of unintended consequences, and it's all over the place.
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Off to vote.
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@scottalanmiller First thought: We're off to see the Wizard...
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That was easy. It's a five minute walk and zero line!
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Whoever came up with the layered sticker packing slips at Dell should have something really terrible happen to them.
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@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Whoever came up with the layered sticker packing slips at Dell should have something really terrible happen to them.
Sounds like someone woke up on the wrong side the island.
Go home, eat a cookie and go back to bed. Come back when the grouchness has lessened.
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@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Whoever came up with the layered sticker packing slips at Dell should have something really terrible happen to them.
Sounds like someone woke up on the wrong side the island.
Go home, eat a cookie and go back to bed. Come back when the grouchness has lessened.
ominous grumbling
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller First thought: We're off to see the Wizard...
Off to see the Electric Wizard??? :metal_tone2: :metal_tone2: :metal_tone2:
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Might go to quiz night, tonight.
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Anyone in the Carrollton, Texas area this evening come join our Quiz Night team at Malarkey's in Trinity at 7:20.
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Firewall firmware upgrade success! Time to head home!