What Are You Doing Right Now
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Trying to learn some Server 2012. This is more complicated than anything I've done in Linux.
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@johnhooks said:
Trying to learn some Server 2012. This is more complicated than anything I've done in Linux.
what is?
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@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
Trying to learn some Server 2012. This is more complicated than anything I've done in Linux.
what is?
I installed from scratch. Setting up folder redirection, and doing some other misc stuff. It just feels so disconnected.
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@johnhooks said:
Trying to learn some Server 2012. This is more complicated than anything I've done in Linux.
Of course it is, everything in windows is a lot more complicated than on Linux. It's shocking when you are using to hearing the marketing from the people who haven't used Linux. Use both and it is amazing how much easier Linux is both for end users and for admins.
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@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
Trying to learn some Server 2012. This is more complicated than anything I've done in Linux.
what is?
Windows
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Last I used was 2003. It's probably because I haven't used it, but I can't imagine managing more than 3 of these.
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@johnhooks said:
Last I used was 2003. It's probably because I haven't used it, but I can't imagine managing more than 3 of these.
That's why they are common with small shops - you need lots of people for very little work and it creates busy work so that the department isn't idle. Once you get to any size, the human overhead costs is enormous.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Last I used was 2003. It's probably because I haven't used it, but I can't imagine managing more than 3 of these.
That's why they are common with small shops - you need lots of people for very little work and it creates busy work so that the department isn't idle. Once you get to any size, the human overhead costs is enormous.
Maybe it's just me, but file based systems make so much more sense in my mind, I kind of just click with them. I think I've built a whole VDI container in less time than it's taking me to create a share and use folder redirection.
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Funny of the morning: Super cold at my house this morning so I started the car like 15 minutes before I had to leave.
Fast forward 15 minutes go out to get in the car open the back door to put stuff in the car. And something ran into my leg (made me shriek). Bunny tired to kill me! I literally scared the crap out of the poor thing and it went hopping back under the car (heard it hit its head), out the other side and down the drive way
Interesting start to my day.
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@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Last I used was 2003. It's probably because I haven't used it, but I can't imagine managing more than 3 of these.
That's why they are common with small shops - you need lots of people for very little work and it creates busy work so that the department isn't idle. Once you get to any size, the human overhead costs is enormous.
Maybe it's just me, but file based systems make so much more sense in my mind, I kind of just click with them. I think I've built a whole VDI container in less time than it's taking me to create a share and use folder redirection.
You don't have the whole idea of drive letters in Linux either. I can see the appeal in that, though It took me a while to wrap my head around everything just being some folder mounted under /
it's also not in your face that you are working on a different drive - which is both good and bad.
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@Dashrender said:
it's also not in your face that you are working on a different drive - which is both good and bad.
Although on Windows it still isn't clear... but pretends to be. Windows has all the complication of you needing to know everything going on under the hood with all the danger of convoluting it.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
it's also not in your face that you are working on a different drive - which is both good and bad.
Although on Windows it still isn't clear... but pretends to be. Windows has all the complication of you needing to know everything going on under the hood with all the danger of convoluting it.
Sure, you can mount other drives under a different one, but that's pretty uncommon. Where else have you see it be confusing as to what drive you are on?
I need to qualify something here - when I'm talking about drives in these previous two posts, I'm actually talking about partitions mounted as drive letters in Windows, not actual physical drives.
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@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Last I used was 2003. It's probably because I haven't used it, but I can't imagine managing more than 3 of these.
That's why they are common with small shops - you need lots of people for very little work and it creates busy work so that the department isn't idle. Once you get to any size, the human overhead costs is enormous.
Maybe it's just me, but file based systems make so much more sense in my mind, I kind of just click with them. I think I've built a whole VDI container in less time than it's taking me to create a share and use folder redirection.
You don't have the whole idea of drive letters in Linux either. I can see the appeal in that, though It took me a while to wrap my head around everything just being some folder mounted under /
it's also not in your face that you are working on a different drive - which is both good and bad.
That plus configs are in files. That makes much more sense to me. Like if I want to stop root login via ssh it's
vi /etc/ssh/sshd_configthen/PermitRootthen edit that line, then:wq. Takes maybe 10 seconds. I don't have to fumble through different windows to get what I want. -
@johnhooks said:
@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Last I used was 2003. It's probably because I haven't used it, but I can't imagine managing more than 3 of these.
That's why they are common with small shops - you need lots of people for very little work and it creates busy work so that the department isn't idle. Once you get to any size, the human overhead costs is enormous.
Maybe it's just me, but file based systems make so much more sense in my mind, I kind of just click with them. I think I've built a whole VDI container in less time than it's taking me to create a share and use folder redirection.
You don't have the whole idea of drive letters in Linux either. I can see the appeal in that, though It took me a while to wrap my head around everything just being some folder mounted under /
it's also not in your face that you are working on a different drive - which is both good and bad.
That plus configs are in files. That makes much more sense to me. Like if I want to stop root login via ssh it's
vi /etc/ssh/sshd_configthen/PermitRootthen edit that line, then:wq. Takes maybe 10 seconds. I don't have to fumble through different windows to get what I want.Three different windows, two registry hacks, and a reboot, just in case.
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@johnhooks said:
@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Last I used was 2003. It's probably because I haven't used it, but I can't imagine managing more than 3 of these.
That's why they are common with small shops - you need lots of people for very little work and it creates busy work so that the department isn't idle. Once you get to any size, the human overhead costs is enormous.
Maybe it's just me, but file based systems make so much more sense in my mind, I kind of just click with them. I think I've built a whole VDI container in less time than it's taking me to create a share and use folder redirection.
You don't have the whole idea of drive letters in Linux either. I can see the appeal in that, though It took me a while to wrap my head around everything just being some folder mounted under /
it's also not in your face that you are working on a different drive - which is both good and bad.
That plus configs are in files. That makes much more sense to me. Like if I want to stop root login via ssh it's
vi /etc/ssh/sshd_configthen/PermitRootthen edit that line, then:wq. Takes maybe 10 seconds. I don't have to fumble through different windows to get what I want.Yeah - I completely agree! I really don't understand why the registry is supposed to be better than old text based config files. Assuming permissions are set correctly you can still easily keep people from messing with things they shouldn't mess with.
There has to be a reason they decided to go that way in Windows 95, but I don't know it.
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Or even quicker
sed -e '/#PermitRootLogin/s/no/yes/g' -e 's/#PermitRootLogin/PermitRootLogin/' -
@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Last I used was 2003. It's probably because I haven't used it, but I can't imagine managing more than 3 of these.
That's why they are common with small shops - you need lots of people for very little work and it creates busy work so that the department isn't idle. Once you get to any size, the human overhead costs is enormous.
Maybe it's just me, but file based systems make so much more sense in my mind, I kind of just click with them. I think I've built a whole VDI container in less time than it's taking me to create a share and use folder redirection.
You don't have the whole idea of drive letters in Linux either. I can see the appeal in that, though It took me a while to wrap my head around everything just being some folder mounted under /
it's also not in your face that you are working on a different drive - which is both good and bad.
That plus configs are in files. That makes much more sense to me. Like if I want to stop root login via ssh it's
vi /etc/ssh/sshd_configthen/PermitRootthen edit that line, then:wq. Takes maybe 10 seconds. I don't have to fumble through different windows to get what I want.Yeah - I completely agree! I really don't understand why the registry is supposed to be better than old text based config files. Assuming permissions are set correctly you can still easily keep people from messing with things they shouldn't mess with.
There has to be a reason they decided to go that way in Windows 95, but I don't know it.
Is it possible to do any kind of version control with Windows? I mean at a basic level you could use git with the /etc/ folder in Linux. How do you track changes in Windows?
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@mlnews said:
I've had a busy morning now that I discovered topic thumbnails!
I set one of those on one of the how to's i wrote. useful
On a side note, I set a header image on my profile. Are those being stored locally?
I know you were wanting to not host things on ML like that.
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@johnhooks said:
@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Last I used was 2003. It's probably because I haven't used it, but I can't imagine managing more than 3 of these.
That's why they are common with small shops - you need lots of people for very little work and it creates busy work so that the department isn't idle. Once you get to any size, the human overhead costs is enormous.
Maybe it's just me, but file based systems make so much more sense in my mind, I kind of just click with them. I think I've built a whole VDI container in less time than it's taking me to create a share and use folder redirection.
You don't have the whole idea of drive letters in Linux either. I can see the appeal in that, though It took me a while to wrap my head around everything just being some folder mounted under /
it's also not in your face that you are working on a different drive - which is both good and bad.
That plus configs are in files. That makes much more sense to me. Like if I want to stop root login via ssh it's
vi /etc/ssh/sshd_configthen/PermitRootthen edit that line, then:wq. Takes maybe 10 seconds. I don't have to fumble through different windows to get what I want.Yeah - I completely agree! I really don't understand why the registry is supposed to be better than old text based config files. Assuming permissions are set correctly you can still easily keep people from messing with things they shouldn't mess with.
There has to be a reason they decided to go that way in Windows 95, but I don't know it.
Is it possible to do any kind of version control with Windows? I mean at a basic level you could use git with the /etc/ folder in Linux. How do you track changes in Windows?
Version control to what end?
Updating software on Windows is a huge pain in the ass.
There are things like Chocolatey where you can get packages to install a lot of the freeware/shareware applications out there.
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@Dashrender I think he's talking about Git functionality. There are third party applications that you can use for Git functionality in Windows (Tortoise Git, as well as the windows Git binaries), but that is not as useful as it could be since the majority of apps are now storing configuration files off in the registry. Git also does not want to work with the User's Documents folder on Windows (it didn't when I tried it!).
