Infoworld on Ten Things Wrong with Windows 10
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@Dashrender said:
Interesting list. Some I agree with some I don't.
For example, the comparison between Linux and Windows 10 and what they support - The problem as I see it, this is an unfair comparison. Regular people aren't just downloading Linux and installing it, or buying their computer from HP/Dell/Best Buy/New Egg/etc with Linux pre-installed on it. As such MS is going for the everyman, not the specialized person. Linux, as a caterer to the tech elite, need to continue to support those old formats, but Microsoft needs to ensure the typical use, not spend time maintaining fringe devices. Those fringe things can be added by third parties.
Isn't that kind of the point, though? Linux supports DVDs, Windows does not. Aren't DVDs for the everyman? They certainly aren't for the IT people or the videophiles.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Interesting list. Some I agree with some I don't.
For example, the comparison between Linux and Windows 10 and what they support - The problem as I see it, this is an unfair comparison. Regular people aren't just downloading Linux and installing it, or buying their computer from HP/Dell/Best Buy/New Egg/etc with Linux pre-installed on it. As such MS is going for the everyman, not the specialized person. Linux, as a caterer to the tech elite, need to continue to support those old formats, but Microsoft needs to ensure the typical use, not spend time maintaining fringe devices. Those fringe things can be added by third parties.
Isn't that kind of the point, though? Linux supports DVDs, Windows does not. Aren't DVDs for the everyman? They certainly aren't for the IT people or the videophiles.
DVD support being dropped so soon does seem odd - but I wouldn't say they are for the everyman any more. Many laptops don't have a DVD drive anymore, sure most desktops do, but I think laptop sales dawf desktop sales... so watching a DVD on your computer is dwindling. But yes, I agree MS got rid of it one version to soon.
Though, if you had media center in Windows 7 or 8, 8.1 you do get a DVD player in Windows 10 when you upgrade (though I don't know how you get it back if you do a full reinstall?).
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Interesting list. Some I agree with some I don't.
For example, the comparison between Linux and Windows 10 and what they support - The problem as I see it, this is an unfair comparison. Regular people aren't just downloading Linux and installing it, or buying their computer from HP/Dell/Best Buy/New Egg/etc with Linux pre-installed on it. As such MS is going for the everyman, not the specialized person. Linux, as a caterer to the tech elite, need to continue to support those old formats, but Microsoft needs to ensure the typical use, not spend time maintaining fringe devices. Those fringe things can be added by third parties.
Isn't that kind of the point, though? Linux supports DVDs, Windows does not. Aren't DVDs for the everyman? They certainly aren't for the IT people or the videophiles.
DVD support being dropped so soon does seem odd - but I wouldn't say they are for the everyman any more. Many laptops don't have a DVD drive anymore, sure most desktops do, but I think laptop sales dawf desktop sales... so watching a DVD on your computer is dwindling. But yes, I agree MS got rid of it one version to soon.
Though, if you had media center in Windows 7 or 8, 8.1 you do get a DVD player in Windows 10 when you upgrade (though I don't know how you get it back if you do a full reinstall?).
Windows 10 specifically removes the DVD option from both the standard OS and removes the Media Center option completely.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Interesting list. Some I agree with some I don't.
For example, the comparison between Linux and Windows 10 and what they support - The problem as I see it, this is an unfair comparison. Regular people aren't just downloading Linux and installing it, or buying their computer from HP/Dell/Best Buy/New Egg/etc with Linux pre-installed on it. As such MS is going for the everyman, not the specialized person. Linux, as a caterer to the tech elite, need to continue to support those old formats, but Microsoft needs to ensure the typical use, not spend time maintaining fringe devices. Those fringe things can be added by third parties.
Isn't that kind of the point, though? Linux supports DVDs, Windows does not. Aren't DVDs for the everyman? They certainly aren't for the IT people or the videophiles.
DVD support being dropped so soon does seem odd - but I wouldn't say they are for the everyman any more. Many laptops don't have a DVD drive anymore, sure most desktops do, but I think laptop sales dawf desktop sales... so watching a DVD on your computer is dwindling. But yes, I agree MS got rid of it one version to soon.
Though, if you had media center in Windows 7 or 8, 8.1 you do get a DVD player in Windows 10 when you upgrade (though I don't know how you get it back if you do a full reinstall?).
Windows 10 specifically removes the DVD option from both the standard OS and removes the Media Center option completely.
Yes i know, but, if you had Media Center in Windows 7 ,8 or 8.1 you can get a DVD player in Windows 10. though you don't get Media Center back.
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@Dashrender said:
Yes i know, but, if you had Media Center in Windows 7 ,8 or 8.1 you can get a DVD player in Windows 10. though you don't get Media Center back.
Oh I missed that, it will carry through in an upgrade?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Yes i know, but, if you had Media Center in Windows 7 ,8 or 8.1 you can get a DVD player in Windows 10. though you don't get Media Center back.
Oh I missed that, it will carry through in an upgrade?
Yes. There are instructions out there on what you should do before you upgrade to windows 10 if you want to ensure that you get the free DVD player.
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Oh cool, that's not super awesome, but it is better than I thought.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Oh cool, that's not super awesome, but it is better than I thought.
The flip side of that is - if your computer came with a DVD drive, it probably came with some software for playing DVDs. You should still be able to use that software in Windows 10.
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@Dashrender said:
The flip side of that is - if your computer came with a DVD drive, it probably came with some software for playing DVDs. You should still be able to use that software in Windows 10.
Never software that you would want installed, though.
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I don't use a DVD player anymore in a computer. Between Amazon Prime, Hulu and Netflix there is no reason to have a dvd for anything. And if I do at some point need one I have an external one around somewhere I could use.
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Neither do I, I don't have any machines with DVD drives either. But for average users, for your parents or the neighbours or whatever, having the computer play DVDs was a fairly normal thing, I think.
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Business computer users and gamers, not so much.
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Also have the playstation and xbox360 as well.
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@Minion-Queen said:
I don't use a DVD player anymore in a computer. Between Amazon Prime, Hulu and Netflix there is no reason to have a dvd for anything. And if I do at some point need one I have an external one around somewhere I could use.
There are some movies on Netflix that are only available as a DVD, not possible to stream them...
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Lots in fact. My dad actually has that DVD service from them still.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Lots in fact. My dad actually has that DVD service from them still.
Annoying as f***[moderated] too
