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    • ?
      A Former User
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      Should I just take a Certification?

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        A Former User @A Former User
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        @Aaron-Studer said:

        Should I just take a Certification?

        No, without real world experience it doesn't mean much.

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          A Former User @A Former User
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          @Aaron-Studer said:

          I would like to start learning more such as QOS, Spanning Tree, VLANs, subnetting, etc.

          Setup labs and do it and watch youtube videos etc on it.

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          • Minion QueenM
            Minion Queen
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            What is your goal for learning this stuff. Just being able to support more? Looking for a new job?

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre
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              I would recommend taking the certification if you want to learn it. No other reason required. 8-)

              Certifications do help when you are job hunting some times, but a lot of folks look at experience before certs.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                @thecreativeone91 said:

                @Aaron-Studer said:

                Should I just take a Certification?

                No, without real world experience it doesn't mean much.

                I agree completely in that it means nothing. But I don't agree in that it would be a bad approach. I like certs as a training path because they define a set of knowledge to learn. I find that using certs as a way to define my progress and determine the set of things to learn to be very useful. It can help you from floundering and not being sure what to learn or where to learn it. Especially starting out.

                The CCNA, as an example, will provide good sets of documentation and a learning curriculum to get him started. Sure, getting the CCNA with zero experience will do nothing for his career, but it might make the actual learning easier and more productive. And when he does get experience then the cert is already there to back it up!

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Certs also do show initiative all on their own. Hiring someone with a CCNA and no networking experience doesn't tell me I'm getting a good networker. But it does show me that he cared enough to study for and obtain the cert. As long as he presents it as what it is and not that he's a networking wiz, I think that that can come across very positively.

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                  • NicN
                    Nic
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                    This book series helped me out a lot:
                    http://www.amazon.com/TCP-Illustrated-Vol-Addison-Wesley-Professional/dp/0201633469

                    He goes through how the protocols work in practices on various distros, and it really helped me understand how it all works on a deeper level.

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                    • handsofqwertyH
                      handsofqwerty
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                      Network+ is great for this. Subnetting is a pain and confusing at first, but everything you will learn makes more sense once you implement it in the real world.

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                        A Former User @handsofqwerty
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                        @handsofqwerty said:

                        Network+

                        Network+ is not even remotely advanced. I don;t think it even covers Vlans, QoS, NAT, STP, OSPF, BRGP.

                        The Main point of the Network+ is understanding the layers of the OSI model for troubleshooting.

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                        • handsofqwertyH
                          handsofqwerty @A Former User
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                          @thecreativeone91 said:

                          @handsofqwerty said:

                          Network+

                          Network+ is not even remotely advanced. I don;t think it even covers Vlans, QoS, NAT, STP, OSPF, BRGP.

                          The Main point of the Network+ is understanding the layers of the OSI model for troubleshooting.

                          It touches on subnetting and some of the other stuff, but definitely not as deep as something like the CCNA. I will agree with that.

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre
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                            If you want to really learn networking stuff, I would recommend starting with the CCNA.

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                            • Minion QueenM
                              Minion Queen
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                              Network+ is what we suggest our new interns do. Very good for a beginner but VERY beginner. But I do suggest if you are trying to fill in the gaps then do it right. Go back to the beginning . I have learned with many IT pro's that they have big gaps way back at the beginning because they jumped in both feet first. They have the know how but don't know the whys. Sometimes you need the how to and the why's when networking especially.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
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                                I need this with IPv6

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  I need this with IPv6

                                  I have been so bad about spending time to get this down solid.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    I need this with IPv6

                                    I have been so bad about spending time to get this down solid.

                                    I've read some documentation a handful of times.. I'm just completely lost.

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                                    • Minion QueenM
                                      Minion Queen
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                                      Sounds like we should do an ML online training 🙂

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                                      • handsofqwertyH
                                        handsofqwerty @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        I need this with IPv6

                                        I have been so bad about spending time to get this down solid.

                                        I've read some documentation a handful of times.. I'm just completely lost.

                                        I know it's 128-bit, the address includes the MAC address and I believe the actual IP portion is 64-bit, but I have to brush up...

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
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                                          @Minion-Queen said:

                                          Network+ is what we suggest our new interns do. Very good for a beginner but VERY beginner. But I do suggest if you are trying to fill in the gaps then do it right. Go back to the beginning . I have learned with many IT pro's that they have big gaps way back at the beginning because they jumped in both feet first. They have the know how but don't know the whys. Sometimes you need the how to and the why's when networking especially.

                                          The Net+, at least back when I did it, has good foundational knowledge. Stuff that we hope everyone would know. Good for roles that are not networking based and doesn't hurt those that plan to go towards networking (but doesn't help much either.) It's really handy knowledge or things like basic SMB networking and standard LAN troubleshooting, even at the desktop level.

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                                            A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            even at the desktop level.

                                            That's really what it's designed for is technicians troubleshooting.

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