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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @wirestyle22
      last edited by

      @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

      @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

      I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

      The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

      UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

      UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

      UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

      UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

      It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22 @travisdh1
        last edited by

        @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

        @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

        @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

        I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

        The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

        UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

        UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

        UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

        UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

        It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

        That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

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        • gjacobseG
          gjacobse @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

          @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

          @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

          @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

          I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

          The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

          UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

          UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

          UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

          UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

          It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

          That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

          And that right there would bother me I believe. One system.... one possible point of failure.

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          • EddieJenningsE
            EddieJennings @gjacobse
            last edited by

            @gjacobse said in UniFi Product stream:

            And that right there would bother me I believe. One system.... one possible point of failure.

            Single points of failure are something to consider when thinking through risk and such, but just having them present isn't necessarily a terrible thing.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @wirestyle22
              last edited by

              @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

              @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

              @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

              @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

              I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

              The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

              UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

              UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

              UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

              UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

              It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

              That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

              Wow- including VOIP? as in on prem VOIP? yeah.. nah.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @gjacobse
                last edited by

                @gjacobse said in UniFi Product stream:

                @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

                The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

                UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

                UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

                UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

                UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

                It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

                That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

                And that right there would bother me I believe. One system.... one possible point of failure.

                Well - that's what they say about VM hosts too - and you aren't saying no to those...

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @wirestyle22
                  last edited by

                  @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                  @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                  @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                  @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                  I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

                  The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

                  UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

                  UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

                  UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

                  UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

                  It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

                  That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

                  That's sounding like a great product for the home, I'll have to keep my eye on them.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                    last edited by

                    @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                    @gjacobse The access control is only good if you already have the controller for it, I forget off the top of my head which device it is, but it is only a single device that can act as the controller. Basically, if you need to buy the controller, then the price of a system is not worth it for access control.

                    Controller is free, though. So it's a weird company where having the controller built into your router makes sense. It's really playing on the extreme niche and/or consumer business - basically a company that acts like someone's home. But not my home, a lower end home.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                      last edited by

                      @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                      @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                      @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                      @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                      @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                      I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

                      The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

                      UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

                      UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

                      UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

                      UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

                      It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

                      That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

                      That's sounding like a great product for the home, I'll have to keep my eye on them.

                      It's really not. Think of your home like a business. This is a product for a business that has confused itself with a home.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in UniFi Product stream:

                        @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                        @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                        @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                        @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                        I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

                        The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

                        UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

                        UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

                        UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

                        UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

                        It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

                        That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

                        Wow- including VOIP? as in on prem VOIP? yeah.. nah.

                        Right? On prem VoIP with a system that's been out for years and considered a total failure. The equipment has a bad reputation already.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                          last edited by

                          @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                          @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                          @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                          @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                          I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

                          The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

                          UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

                          UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

                          UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

                          UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

                          It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

                          That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

                          The free Unifi controller already does that. That a FREE piece of functionality is shoved onto your router does not improve it in any way, whatsoever.

                          You are acting like this is providing some kind of value that you don't already have without the Dream Machine. It's not. It's just marketing using the emotional response to bundling make you feel like you should pay for something you already have.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in UniFi Product stream:

                            @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                            @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                            @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                            @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                            I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

                            The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

                            UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

                            UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

                            UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

                            UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

                            It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

                            That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

                            The free Unifi controller already does that. That a FREE piece of functionality is shoved onto your router does not improve it in any way, whatsoever.

                            You are acting like this is providing some kind of value that you don't already have without the Dream Machine. It's not. It's just marketing using the emotional response to bundling make you feel like you should pay for something you already have.

                            Well... the play is it's all self contained. No need to host a machine somewhere to run the controller, no need to host a machine somewhere to do VOIP, no need to host a machine somewhere to do access, etc, etc.

                            but bringing all that in-house - you have to consider the risk factors.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in UniFi Product stream:

                              @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                              @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                              @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                              @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                              @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                              I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

                              The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

                              UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

                              UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

                              UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

                              UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

                              It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

                              That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

                              That's sounding like a great product for the home, I'll have to keep my eye on them.

                              It's really not. Think of your home like a business. This is a product for a business that has confused itself with a home.

                              Sounds like it's not a product for business

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @wirestyle22
                                last edited by

                                @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                @scottalanmiller said in UniFi Product stream:

                                @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

                                The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

                                UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

                                UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

                                UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

                                UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

                                It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

                                That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

                                That's sounding like a great product for the home, I'll have to keep my eye on them.

                                It's really not. Think of your home like a business. This is a product for a business that has confused itself with a home.

                                Sounds like it's not a product for business

                                It is not, probably not even a serious house product, just something that looks neat to play with (expensive toy.)

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in UniFi Product stream:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                  @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                  @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                  I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

                                  The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

                                  UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

                                  UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

                                  UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

                                  UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

                                  It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

                                  That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

                                  The free Unifi controller already does that. That a FREE piece of functionality is shoved onto your router does not improve it in any way, whatsoever.

                                  You are acting like this is providing some kind of value that you don't already have without the Dream Machine. It's not.

                                  Ease of use for every day people
                                  Unifi Protect--somewhat manufactured value

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @travisdh1
                                    last edited by

                                    @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in UniFi Product stream:

                                    @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                    @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                    @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                    I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

                                    The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

                                    UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

                                    UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

                                    UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

                                    UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

                                    It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

                                    That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

                                    That's sounding like a great product for the home, I'll have to keep my eye on them.

                                    It's really not. Think of your home like a business. This is a product for a business that has confused itself with a home.

                                    Sounds like it's not a product for business

                                    It is not, probably not even a serious house product, just something that looks neat to play with (expensive toy.)

                                    I was being sarcastic, sorry. It's very clear it's not a product for business. It's for ease of use for every day people.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @travisdh1
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                                      @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in UniFi Product stream:

                                      @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

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                                      @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                      I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

                                      The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

                                      UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

                                      UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

                                      UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

                                      UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

                                      It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

                                      That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

                                      That's sounding like a great product for the home, I'll have to keep my eye on them.

                                      It's really not. Think of your home like a business. This is a product for a business that has confused itself with a home.

                                      Sounds like it's not a product for business

                                      It is not, probably not even a serious house product, just something that looks neat to play with (expensive toy.)

                                      Yep - that's it exactly - it looks cool because it blends all those things together - but you have to ask yourself.. is that the way it should really be? for these particular services?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @wirestyle22
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                                        @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                        @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in UniFi Product stream:

                                        @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                        @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                        @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                        I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

                                        The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

                                        UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

                                        UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

                                        UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

                                        UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

                                        It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

                                        That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

                                        That's sounding like a great product for the home, I'll have to keep my eye on them.

                                        It's really not. Think of your home like a business. This is a product for a business that has confused itself with a home.

                                        Sounds like it's not a product for business

                                        It is not, probably not even a serious house product, just something that looks neat to play with (expensive toy.)

                                        I was being sarcastic, sorry. It's very clear it's not a product for business. It's for ease of use for every day people.

                                        Frankly, I kinda hate these kinds of products, because they aren't great for anyone. Sure they might work for a min, but once they break, those every day people are left holding the bag and are pissed.

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                                          wirestyle22 @Dashrender
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                                          @dashrender said in UniFi Product stream:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                          @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in UniFi Product stream:

                                          @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                          @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                          @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                          I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

                                          The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

                                          UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

                                          UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

                                          UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

                                          UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

                                          It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

                                          That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

                                          That's sounding like a great product for the home, I'll have to keep my eye on them.

                                          It's really not. Think of your home like a business. This is a product for a business that has confused itself with a home.

                                          Sounds like it's not a product for business

                                          It is not, probably not even a serious house product, just something that looks neat to play with (expensive toy.)

                                          I was being sarcastic, sorry. It's very clear it's not a product for business. It's for ease of use for every day people.

                                          once they break, those every day people are left holding the bag and are pissed.

                                          That's everything

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @dashrender said in UniFi Product stream:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in UniFi Product stream:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                            @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                            @travisdh1 said in UniFi Product stream:

                                            I forget off the top of my head which device it is,

                                            The UniFi Access system consists of four elements:

                                            UA Controller: The control center for your Access system, hosted on the UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM-Pro). Your UA controller is easily upgradable and offers a host of features that simplify access policymaking as well as personnel, space, and device management.

                                            UA-Hub: A secure I/O hub that authenticates inputs registered by your Access readers (UA-Pro & UA-Lite), push buttons, and sensors. Your UA Hub can also control door locks, alarms, and motorized door openers.

                                            UA-Pro and UA-Lite: The Access system's card or motion reading devices that unlock doors with a swipe of an NFC card or NFC-enabled mobile phone. Please refer to the Current and Future Access Modes section below for more information on current and future access methods.

                                            UA-Card: A NFC card that is specific to your Access system and encrypted with a special algorithm that cannot be replicated, unlike other NFC cards. Your Access system will support any NFC card, so you can retain your current access cards.

                                            It was the Dream Machine Pro I was thinking of. The reviews I've seen all say that if you have to buy a Dream Machine Pro just for the access control that you're better off going with the competition who's overall price will be lower.

                                            That applies if you aren't planning on using the other stuff the Dream Machine is capable of. It's a single device that can manage all of your AP's, Security Cameras, Door Access and soon VoIP. Depending on the use I would think it would be worth it provided you are getting the functionality you want out of it.

                                            The free Unifi controller already does that. That a FREE piece of functionality is shoved onto your router does not improve it in any way, whatsoever.

                                            You are acting like this is providing some kind of value that you don't already have without the Dream Machine. It's not. It's just marketing using the emotional response to bundling make you feel like you should pay for something you already have.

                                            Well... the play is it's all self contained. No need to host a machine somewhere to run the controller, no need to host a machine somewhere to do VOIP, no need to host a machine somewhere to do access, etc, etc.

                                            but bringing all that in-house - you have to consider the risk factors.

                                            But there is a reason businesses specifically separate those duties. Those are horrible things to mash into your firewall. They are bad to mash anywhere, but on the FIREWALL!!! That's effing insane. If there is one place in your entire network that you never put other workloads, that's the place.

                                            There's no need to host a controller somewhere either, it always ran on a desktop if you were residential. Seriously the DreamMachine is just another inverted pyramid of doom. Easy to make sound good, impossible to find a valid use case for. It's designed to be marketed, not to be desired.

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