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      Francesco Provino
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      Hi @gjacobse , consider something like a tiered approach to the problem. 1Pb are a lot of data.
      Maybe 5-10Tb of fast SSD for caching, 50-100Tb of spinning disks for caching/capacity and the rest will go to the cloud.
      For instance, a single AWS Storage Gateway appliance could be the solution if you have good internet uplink.
      Another solution could be Azure Stack.
      Feel free to contact me if need advices about that kind of setup.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce
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        If this is something that just has to happen for whatever reason, political, technical, whatever, then the only real way to do it is as Scott mentioned... RAIN. It's the only way to do it that is truly scalable and manageable to sizes like that, even if starting out with much lower storage capacity. You can start with a few nodes of several hundred TBs, and add more nodes to scale as required.

        Maybe look at something like DataOn.

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          gjacobse
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          RAIN over RAID

          This is likely the answer. I found this: Drath of RAID and am reading it.

          I don’t see many diagrams on it, or much on it really- maybe I’m not searching the right term(s).

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            DustinB3403 @gjacobse
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            @gjacobse said in Designing for tech startup: Network, AD, Backup etc:

            RAIN over RAID

            This is likely the answer. I found this: Drath of RAID and am reading it.

            I don’t see many diagrams on it, or much on it really- maybe I’m not searching the right term(s).

            Of course there are no diagrams, ML is to discuss, not a hand book on how to setup an exact system. Everything you're being asked to do is going to require RAIN, but the specifics of how it's setup is going to be completely unique to this environment.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by DustinB3403

              Reading the documentation for gluster, there is nothing particularly difficult to understand here. Since RAIN is what you're going to be using, might be worth reading. https://docs.gluster.org/en/latest/Quick-Start-Guide/Quickstart/

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                gjacobse @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Designing for tech startup: Network, AD, Backup etc:

                Reading the documentation for gluster, there is nothing particularly difficult to understand here. Since RAIN is what you're going to be using, might be worth reading. https://docs.gluster.org/en/latest/Quick-Start-Guide/Quickstart/

                Doesn’t meet the requested OS-
                They only want Windows.

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                  DustinB3403 @gjacobse
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                  @gjacobse said in Designing for tech startup: Network, AD, Backup etc:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Designing for tech startup: Network, AD, Backup etc:

                  Reading the documentation for gluster, there is nothing particularly difficult to understand here. Since RAIN is what you're going to be using, might be worth reading. https://docs.gluster.org/en/latest/Quick-Start-Guide/Quickstart/

                  Doesn’t meet the requested OS-
                  They only want Windows.

                  Well they clearly don't know what they want and how it works.

                  My assumption is they want a Windows File Server, they shouldn't care how the underlying environment is setup so long as they are presented with the interface to "manage the files" that they are used to.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
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                    I suppose you could use Storage Spaces Direct (all windows across the entire thing) but I wouldn't consider SSD at all mature nor production ready, especially at this scale.

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                      gjacobse @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said in Designing for tech startup: Network, AD, Backup etc:

                      I suppose you could use Storage Spaces Direct (all windows across the entire thing) but I wouldn't consider SSD at all mature nor production ready, especially at this scale.

                      Thanks, had not heard of this.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @gjacobse
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                        @gjacobse said in Designing for tech startup: Network, AD, Backup etc:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Designing for tech startup: Network, AD, Backup etc:

                        I suppose you could use Storage Spaces Direct (all windows across the entire thing) but I wouldn't consider SSD at all mature nor production ready, especially at this scale.

                        Thanks, had not heard of this.

                        You'd not heard of Storage Spaces Direct?

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                          scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                          @gjacobse said in Designing for tech startup: Network, AD, Backup etc:

                          RAIN over RAID

                          This is likely the answer. I found this: Drath of RAID and am reading it.

                          I don’t see many diagrams on it, or much on it really- maybe I’m not searching the right term(s).

                          RAIN is used pretty much everywhere. But it's not something you normally implement yourself. So you aren't going to find much on it because almost no one works with it.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @gjacobse
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                            @gjacobse said in Designing for tech startup: Network, AD, Backup etc:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Designing for tech startup: Network, AD, Backup etc:

                            I suppose you could use Storage Spaces Direct (all windows across the entire thing) but I wouldn't consider SSD at all mature nor production ready, especially at this scale.

                            Thanks, had not heard of this.

                            DataOn solutions fully support this and vice versa. They are experienced with this kind of scale and much larger.

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