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    Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?

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    • pchiodoP
      pchiodo
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      Probably do not need a server license. Most of these type of apps can be run in Client/Server mode on a desktop so I think you would be fine. Bigger question is how many people are going to use the app? Just one? then a desktop or a VDI would be fine. If there is more than 5 accessing then I would move to a 3 tier with a VM using Windows Server.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @pchiodo
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        @pchiodo said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

        Probably do not need a server license. Most of these type of apps can be run in Client/Server mode on a desktop so I think you would be fine. Bigger question is how many people are going to use the app? Just one? then a desktop or a VDI would be fine. If there is more than 5 accessing then I would move to a 3 tier with a VM using Windows Server.

        The number of users is actually irrelevant. What matters is the number of concurrent connections and the type of content being hosted.

        This would fall outside of what MS has allowed in the Desktop licensing.

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        • pchiodoP
          pchiodo @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 You are correct - It what I meant when I said users. And yes, it would fall outside MS guidelines. On the other hand, MS is so FUBAR on it's licensing schema that it's really hard to say what is kosher and what is not when nitpicking these kind of details.

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          • dbeatoD
            dbeato
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            To be on Microsoft Guidelines just do a Server License instead of a Desktop.
            http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/8/d/98d6a56c-4d79-40f4-8462-da3ecba2dc2c/licensing_windows_desktop_os_for_virtual_machines.pdf

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @pchiodo
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              @pchiodo said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

              @DustinB3403 You are correct - It what I meant when I said users. And yes, it would fall outside MS guidelines. On the other hand, MS is so FUBAR on it's licensing schema that it's really hard to say what is kosher and what is not when nitpicking these kind of details.

              This is my opinion as well.

              What I don't know well enough yet is - is this a local DB that's pulling data from a cloud source for a local DB, and only used on this computer? OR

              Is the local DB then shared out to other machines that have a client on them?

              If it's the second, then I agree with Dustin - it would be sharing the access to the DB, therefore needs Server license - just like Quickbook, even though almost no small business ever actually does that.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                @pchiodo said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                @DustinB3403 You are correct - It what I meant when I said users. And yes, it would fall outside MS guidelines. On the other hand, MS is so FUBAR on it's licensing schema that it's really hard to say what is kosher and what is not when nitpicking these kind of details.

                This is my opinion as well.

                What I don't know well enough yet is - is this a local DB that's pulling data from a cloud source for a local DB, and only used on this computer? OR

                Is the local DB then shared out to other machines that have a client on them?

                If it's the second, then I agree with Dustin - it would be sharing the access to the DB, therefore needs Server license - just like Quickbook, even though almost no small business ever actually does that.

                Last time I looked, QuickBooks is just a file sharing

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @JaredBusch
                  last edited by Dashrender

                  @JaredBusch said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                  @Dashrender said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                  @pchiodo said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                  @DustinB3403 You are correct - It what I meant when I said users. And yes, it would fall outside MS guidelines. On the other hand, MS is so FUBAR on it's licensing schema that it's really hard to say what is kosher and what is not when nitpicking these kind of details.

                  This is my opinion as well.

                  What I don't know well enough yet is - is this a local DB that's pulling data from a cloud source for a local DB, and only used on this computer? OR

                  Is the local DB then shared out to other machines that have a client on them?

                  If it's the second, then I agree with Dustin - it would be sharing the access to the DB, therefore needs Server license - just like Quickbook, even though almost no small business ever actually does that.

                  Last time I looked, QuickBooks is just a file sharing

                  no, they changed it some time ago - there is a server process that runs on the host.
                  9e9cff32-df0c-4b96-a5ce-ae8d442a49f8-image.png

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                    @JaredBusch said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                    @Dashrender said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                    @pchiodo said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                    @DustinB3403 You are correct - It what I meant when I said users. And yes, it would fall outside MS guidelines. On the other hand, MS is so FUBAR on it's licensing schema that it's really hard to say what is kosher and what is not when nitpicking these kind of details.

                    This is my opinion as well.

                    What I don't know well enough yet is - is this a local DB that's pulling data from a cloud source for a local DB, and only used on this computer? OR

                    Is the local DB then shared out to other machines that have a client on them?

                    If it's the second, then I agree with Dustin - it would be sharing the access to the DB, therefore needs Server license - just like Quickbook, even though almost no small business ever actually does that.

                    Last time I looked, QuickBooks is just a file sharing

                    no, they changed it some time ago - there is a server process that runs on the host.

                    I’m so happy I did not know that

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                      @Dashrender said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                      @JaredBusch said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                      @Dashrender said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                      @pchiodo said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                      @DustinB3403 You are correct - It what I meant when I said users. And yes, it would fall outside MS guidelines. On the other hand, MS is so FUBAR on it's licensing schema that it's really hard to say what is kosher and what is not when nitpicking these kind of details.

                      This is my opinion as well.

                      What I don't know well enough yet is - is this a local DB that's pulling data from a cloud source for a local DB, and only used on this computer? OR

                      Is the local DB then shared out to other machines that have a client on them?

                      If it's the second, then I agree with Dustin - it would be sharing the access to the DB, therefore needs Server license - just like Quickbook, even though almost no small business ever actually does that.

                      Last time I looked, QuickBooks is just a file sharing

                      no, they changed it some time ago - there is a server process that runs on the host.

                      I’m so happy I did not know that

                      I only learned about here - I think Scott posted it.

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                      • dbeatoD
                        dbeato @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                        @JaredBusch said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                        @Dashrender said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                        @pchiodo said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                        @DustinB3403 You are correct - It what I meant when I said users. And yes, it would fall outside MS guidelines. On the other hand, MS is so FUBAR on it's licensing schema that it's really hard to say what is kosher and what is not when nitpicking these kind of details.

                        This is my opinion as well.

                        What I don't know well enough yet is - is this a local DB that's pulling data from a cloud source for a local DB, and only used on this computer? OR

                        Is the local DB then shared out to other machines that have a client on them?

                        If it's the second, then I agree with Dustin - it would be sharing the access to the DB, therefore needs Server license - just like Quickbook, even though almost no small business ever actually does that.

                        Last time I looked, QuickBooks is just a file sharing

                        no, they changed it some time ago - there is a server process that runs on the host.
                        9e9cff32-df0c-4b96-a5ce-ae8d442a49f8-image.png

                        When using the Quickbooks Database Manager, do not create the firewall rules yourself, only let the application create it for you. Otherwise it would be problematic. You don't need the Database manager if you use files in single user mode.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                          @pchiodo said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:

                          Probably do not need a server license. Most of these type of apps can be run in Client/Server mode on a desktop so I think you would be fine. Bigger question is how many people are going to use the app? Just one? then a desktop or a VDI would be fine. If there is more than 5 accessing then I would move to a 3 tier with a VM using Windows Server.

                          The number of users is actually irrelevant. What matters is the number of concurrent connections and the type of content being hosted.

                          This would fall outside of what MS has allowed in the Desktop licensing.

                          Depends on the mode... number via SMB, doesn't matter. Number by RDP matters.

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