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    • dbeatoD
      dbeato @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

      @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

      @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

      @jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

      @Dashrender Got it. Our departments have their own budget so if they want to print color they can but they figured out fast to be responsible for their own paper.

      That seems like a bad approach, since any given department could be forced to stop work "because they overran their paper budget".

      Usually, they use the code and pin to know where they are using color but otherwise default is to allow b&w to print without a code.

      How does the printer know the difference? Black is a color. .

      Really?

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @dbeato
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        @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

        @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

        @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

        @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

        @jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

        @Dashrender Got it. Our departments have their own budget so if they want to print color they can but they figured out fast to be responsible for their own paper.

        That seems like a bad approach, since any given department could be forced to stop work "because they overran their paper budget".

        Usually, they use the code and pin to know where they are using color but otherwise default is to allow b&w to print without a code.

        How does the printer know the difference? Black is a color. .

        Really?

        Yes really, how does a printer know the difference between CMYK and a page which is black and white.

        It's an honest question as I don't know how a Pin to "print in color" would affect this the way you described it.

        Also to whoever downvoted, not sure why.

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        • dbeatoD
          dbeato @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

          @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

          @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

          @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

          @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

          @jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

          @Dashrender Got it. Our departments have their own budget so if they want to print color they can but they figured out fast to be responsible for their own paper.

          That seems like a bad approach, since any given department could be forced to stop work "because they overran their paper budget".

          Usually, they use the code and pin to know where they are using color but otherwise default is to allow b&w to print without a code.

          How does the printer know the difference? Black is a color. .

          Really?

          Yes really, how does a printer know the difference between CMYK and a page which is black and white.

          It's an honest question as I don't know how a Pin to "print in color" would affect this the way you described it.

          Also to whoever downvoted, not sure why.

          Okay, there are different types of print black and white, gray scale and color which uses CMYK , usually on MFP devices they have different toners for esch of those colors plus black. When a job is sent to the printer with the color setting on the driver it then uses those toners while black and white only requests the black toner

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @dbeato
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            @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

            @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

            @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

            @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

            @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

            @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

            @jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

            @Dashrender Got it. Our departments have their own budget so if they want to print color they can but they figured out fast to be responsible for their own paper.

            That seems like a bad approach, since any given department could be forced to stop work "because they overran their paper budget".

            Usually, they use the code and pin to know where they are using color but otherwise default is to allow b&w to print without a code.

            How does the printer know the difference? Black is a color. .

            Really?

            Yes really, how does a printer know the difference between CMYK and a page which is black and white.

            It's an honest question as I don't know how a Pin to "print in color" would affect this the way you described it.

            Also to whoever downvoted, not sure why.

            Okay, there are different types of print black and white, gray scale and color which uses CMYK , usually on MFP devices they have different toners for esch of those colors plus black. When a job is sent to the printer with the color setting on the driver it then uses those toners while black and white only requests the black toner

            None of the explains what I've asked. How does entering a pin, allow someone to print in color? I've always seen Pin or No Pin for all printing.

            Nothing I've ever used has offered "pin for color prints only" etc.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

              @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

              @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

              @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

              @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

              @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

              @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

              @jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

              @Dashrender Got it. Our departments have their own budget so if they want to print color they can but they figured out fast to be responsible for their own paper.

              That seems like a bad approach, since any given department could be forced to stop work "because they overran their paper budget".

              Usually, they use the code and pin to know where they are using color but otherwise default is to allow b&w to print without a code.

              How does the printer know the difference? Black is a color. .

              Really?

              Yes really, how does a printer know the difference between CMYK and a page which is black and white.

              It's an honest question as I don't know how a Pin to "print in color" would affect this the way you described it.

              Also to whoever downvoted, not sure why.

              Okay, there are different types of print black and white, gray scale and color which uses CMYK , usually on MFP devices they have different toners for esch of those colors plus black. When a job is sent to the printer with the color setting on the driver it then uses those toners while black and white only requests the black toner

              None of the explains what I've asked. How does entering a pin, allow someone to print in color? I've always seen Pin or No Pin for all printing.

              Nothing I've ever used has offered "pin for color prints only" etc.

              At my last job, we had to set up 2 Pins... One for Black & White, and the other for Color.... The Pins were department-level codes so that we could properly track which departments were (ab)using their color printers and such.

              Edit: We didn't leave that in place very long due to user complaints.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @dafyre
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                @dafyre said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                @jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                @Dashrender Got it. Our departments have their own budget so if they want to print color they can but they figured out fast to be responsible for their own paper.

                That seems like a bad approach, since any given department could be forced to stop work "because they overran their paper budget".

                Usually, they use the code and pin to know where they are using color but otherwise default is to allow b&w to print without a code.

                How does the printer know the difference? Black is a color. .

                Really?

                Yes really, how does a printer know the difference between CMYK and a page which is black and white.

                It's an honest question as I don't know how a Pin to "print in color" would affect this the way you described it.

                Also to whoever downvoted, not sure why.

                Okay, there are different types of print black and white, gray scale and color which uses CMYK , usually on MFP devices they have different toners for esch of those colors plus black. When a job is sent to the printer with the color setting on the driver it then uses those toners while black and white only requests the black toner

                None of the explains what I've asked. How does entering a pin, allow someone to print in color? I've always seen Pin or No Pin for all printing.

                Nothing I've ever used has offered "pin for color prints only" etc.

                At my last job, we had to set up 2 Pins... One for Black & White, and the other for Color.... The Pins were department-level codes so that we could properly track which departments were (ab)using their color printers and such.

                Edit: We didn't leave that in place very long due to user complaints.

                I've done that, but for the purposes of seeing "who is being an abuser". But pins to "allow a CMYK page or deck" has never come through.

                It's (at least in my experience) always been "print whatever you want, but you/your department is going to have the cost "billed" to it"

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                  @dafyre said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                  @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                  @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                  @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                  @jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                  @Dashrender Got it. Our departments have their own budget so if they want to print color they can but they figured out fast to be responsible for their own paper.

                  That seems like a bad approach, since any given department could be forced to stop work "because they overran their paper budget".

                  Usually, they use the code and pin to know where they are using color but otherwise default is to allow b&w to print without a code.

                  How does the printer know the difference? Black is a color. .

                  Really?

                  Yes really, how does a printer know the difference between CMYK and a page which is black and white.

                  It's an honest question as I don't know how a Pin to "print in color" would affect this the way you described it.

                  Also to whoever downvoted, not sure why.

                  Okay, there are different types of print black and white, gray scale and color which uses CMYK , usually on MFP devices they have different toners for esch of those colors plus black. When a job is sent to the printer with the color setting on the driver it then uses those toners while black and white only requests the black toner

                  None of the explains what I've asked. How does entering a pin, allow someone to print in color? I've always seen Pin or No Pin for all printing.

                  Nothing I've ever used has offered "pin for color prints only" etc.

                  At my last job, we had to set up 2 Pins... One for Black & White, and the other for Color.... The Pins were department-level codes so that we could properly track which departments were (ab)using their color printers and such.

                  Edit: We didn't leave that in place very long due to user complaints.

                  I've done that, but for the purposes of seeing "who is being an abuser". But pins to "allow a CMYK page or deck" has never come through.

                  It's (at least in my experience) always been "print whatever you want, but you/your department is going to have the cost "billed" to it"

                  IIRC, This is what we reverted back to, lol.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
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                    And only for the purposes of figuring out what departments are being printer abusers.

                    We even rolled out a mandated email signature for internal and external emails along the lines of "Think before you print"

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                      scotth
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                      We buy paper by the pallet. Thus the need for controlling printing abuse.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @scotth
                        last edited by

                        @scotth said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                        We buy paper by the pallet. Thus the need for controlling printing abuse.

                        Do you try and get so granular with the controls that you limit who can print in color or in black and white only? Or do you simply have a control in place (individual user pins) so you can generate reports and see who is printing at whatever quantities?

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                          scotth @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                          @scotth said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                          We buy paper by the pallet. Thus the need for controlling printing abuse.

                          Do you try and get so granular with the controls that you limit who can print in color or in black and white only? Or do you simply have a control in place (individual user pins) so you can generate reports and see who is printing at whatever quantities?

                          No. Just a reports. Costs are mostly known. If things get out of whack, we check the reports and see if there's a need for a change in behavior. Nothing draconian, just keeping things copacetic.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @scotth
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                            @scotth Yeah that makes sense and what I've always seen/done (except where I'm at today as we have nothing in place).

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                            • jmooreJ
                              jmoore @Romo
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                              @Romo Ok cool. That's usually the way it is. No one knows. I was just wondering, thanks

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                              • dbeatoD
                                dbeato @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                                @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                                @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                                @dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                                @jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:

                                @Dashrender Got it. Our departments have their own budget so if they want to print color they can but they figured out fast to be responsible for their own paper.

                                That seems like a bad approach, since any given department could be forced to stop work "because they overran their paper budget".

                                Usually, they use the code and pin to know where they are using color but otherwise default is to allow b&w to print without a code.

                                How does the printer know the difference? Black is a color. .

                                Really?

                                Yes really, how does a printer know the difference between CMYK and a page which is black and white.

                                It's an honest question as I don't know how a Pin to "print in color" would affect this the way you described it.

                                Also to whoever downvoted, not sure why.

                                Okay, there are different types of print black and white, gray scale and color which uses CMYK , usually on MFP devices they have different toners for esch of those colors plus black. When a job is sent to the printer with the color setting on the driver it then uses those toners while black and white only requests the black toner

                                None of the explains what I've asked. How does entering a pin, allow someone to print in color? I've always seen Pin or No Pin for all printing.

                                Nothing I've ever used has offered "pin for color prints only" etc.

                                It can be for both.

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