Better Than Aliens
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@bigbear said in Better Than Aliens:
@wirestyle22 I dont think you should feel bad for thinking this. If you rewind 10+ years vendors like Allworx (grrrr) would deflect every quality issue as a result of you not deploying VLANS and QoS on your 12 phone network. Hah! And I am talking about Allworx with a PRI attached who is telling you your LAN is some kind of bottleneck.
Allworx had and may still have a header issue.
I still come across customers with band issues that have some legacy VLAN/QoS configured (and configured wrong most of the time).
So, point being, you really couldnt fault someone for having this "misinformation".
This is why I have a VOIP VLAN. Lack of knowledge and MSP pushing it.
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@bigbear said in Better Than Aliens:
In reality a queue can only have priority when there are other things queued.
This is the key. Understand this, you start understanding the use/need of VLANs and QoS - only start to understand.
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@bigbear said in Better Than Aliens:
@wirestyle22 I dont think you should feel bad for thinking this. If you rewind 10+ years vendors like Allworx (grrrr) would deflect every quality issue as a result of you not deploying VLANS and QoS on your 12 phone network. Hah! And I am talking about Allworx with a PRI attached who is telling you your LAN is some kind of bottleneck.
Allworx had and may still have a header issue.
I still come across customers with band issues that have some legacy VLAN/QoS configured (and configured wrong most of the time).
So, point being, you really couldnt fault someone for having this "misinformation".
Except, the misinformation is based on not knowing the fundamentals that IT should be required to know. This is Net+ level stuff. Once you know what a VLAN is, you know this doesn't make sense and that the vendor is preying on you. And if you know business basics, also required for IT, you know that your vendor sales people have an incentive to push you in ways that interest them, not you, and not to get IT advice from them. So while I agree, loads of misinformation out there, the root of it is something everyone in IT has a responsibility to know to question, and the technical basis is considered within the baseline for the industry.
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@coliver said in Better Than Aliens:
@JaredBusch said in Better Than Aliens:
Both of those statements are incorrect in that picture.
The guy recommending VLAN is recommending for the wrong reason. But the OP network sounds quite large. It would probably benefit from some segregation.
But the OP also stated he thought VLAN needed 2 jacks in the wall.. so just nope.. stepping the fuck out of that thread....
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Curtis weighs in on port security...
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@IRJ said in Better Than Aliens:
Curtis weighs in on port security...
So he thinks there is zero concern opening ports. And he thinks that Active Directory opens when you go to a website?
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@scottalanmiller said in Better Than Aliens:
@IRJ said in Better Than Aliens:
Curtis weighs in on port security...
So he thinks there is zero concern opening ports. And he thinks that Active Directory opens when you go to a website?
As long as you use only 7 ports, and those 7 ports remain the same over a 10 year period. In that case, you have no concern.
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@IRJ said in Better Than Aliens:
@scottalanmiller said in Better Than Aliens:
@IRJ said in Better Than Aliens:
Curtis weighs in on port security...
So he thinks there is zero concern opening ports. And he thinks that Active Directory opens when you go to a website?
As long as you use only 7 ports, and those 7 ports remain the same over a 10 year period. In that case, you have no concern.
Did someone at least warn the poor shlubs who don't know what a hack Curtis is yet?
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@travisdh1 said in Better Than Aliens:
@IRJ said in Better Than Aliens:
@scottalanmiller said in Better Than Aliens:
@IRJ said in Better Than Aliens:
Curtis weighs in on port security...
So he thinks there is zero concern opening ports. And he thinks that Active Directory opens when you go to a website?
As long as you use only 7 ports, and those 7 ports remain the same over a 10 year period. In that case, you have no concern.
Did someone at least warn the poor shlubs who don't know what a hack Curtis is yet?
I would but, ya know.
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@IRJ said in Better Than Aliens:
Curtis weighs in on port security...
@scottalanmiller are we allowed to post
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@dbeato said in Better Than Aliens:
@IRJ said in Better Than Aliens:
Curtis weighs in on port security...
@scottalanmiller are we allowed to post
links now?Yeah, that was an MQ thing that doesn't exist any longer. No bashing, of course, but sending them traffic is fine.
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@scottalanmiller said in Better Than Aliens:
@dbeato said in Better Than Aliens:
@IRJ said in Better Than Aliens:
Curtis weighs in on port security...
@scottalanmiller are we allowed to post
links now?Yeah, that was an MQ thing that doesn't exist any longer. No bashing, of course, but sending them traffic is fine.
Understood.
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@scottalanmiller does that mean we cant use that thread?
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VLANs explained by Curtis..
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2167797-school-network-recommendations
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@IRJ said in Better Than Aliens:
VLANs explained by Curtis..
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2167797-school-network-recommendations
Good for a chuckle, I'm sure. I'm going to resist reading it myself.
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@DustinB3403 said in Better Than Aliens:
@scottalanmiller does that mean we cant use that thread?
Not for that, no.
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@IRJ said in Better Than Aliens:
VLANs explained by Curtis..
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2167797-school-network-recommendations
I'm hating myself for reading that Saturday morning....
