MangoCon 2019
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@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@nerdydad said in MangoCon 2019:
@dominica Never been to Rochester, but already believes that DFW is a wee bit more appealing than Rochester.
It's more like Austin than you might think. It's actually a very cool town. But not all that big.
Just not South Dallas....
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@dominica said in MangoCon 2019:
@rojoloco said in MangoCon 2019:
@donahue said in MangoCon 2019:
Is there any cost for bringing a guest? I would love to bring the wife. I doubt she would be interested in the tech, just a vacation.
I was wondering about that as well. I'll probably be bringing the girlfriend unit if I'm able to attend.
We hadn't really thought about this yet, because let's face it, nobody's main squeeze was interested in going to Rochester, NY
Not really sure they would have ANY interest in going, even it was in an exotic location. Because then they would want to be out on the beach and not in some IT thing.
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@brrabill said in MangoCon 2019:
@dominica said in MangoCon 2019:
@rojoloco said in MangoCon 2019:
@donahue said in MangoCon 2019:
Is there any cost for bringing a guest? I would love to bring the wife. I doubt she would be interested in the tech, just a vacation.
I was wondering about that as well. I'll probably be bringing the girlfriend unit if I'm able to attend.
We hadn't really thought about this yet, because let's face it, nobody's main squeeze was interested in going to Rochester, NY
Not really sure they would have ANY interest in going, even it was in an exotic location. Because then they would want to be out on the beach and not in some IT thing.
Plenty go to other conferences.
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@brrabill said in MangoCon 2019:
@dominica said in MangoCon 2019:
@rojoloco said in MangoCon 2019:
@donahue said in MangoCon 2019:
Is there any cost for bringing a guest? I would love to bring the wife. I doubt she would be interested in the tech, just a vacation.
I was wondering about that as well. I'll probably be bringing the girlfriend unit if I'm able to attend.
We hadn't really thought about this yet, because let's face it, nobody's main squeeze was interested in going to Rochester, NY
Not really sure they would have ANY interest in going, even it was in an exotic location. Because then they would want to be out on the beach and not in some IT thing.
I know at least one spouse came to Rochester during MangoCon and did touristy things while the IT talks were happening. Can't remember who it was off the top of my head right now.
I don't know if Houston would be more attractive for doing the touristy stuff or not. 2019 will be the first time I'll have been in Houston other than waving while I drive by in a truck.
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@travisdh1 said in MangoCon 2019:
@brrabill said in MangoCon 2019:
@dominica said in MangoCon 2019:
@rojoloco said in MangoCon 2019:
@donahue said in MangoCon 2019:
Is there any cost for bringing a guest? I would love to bring the wife. I doubt she would be interested in the tech, just a vacation.
I was wondering about that as well. I'll probably be bringing the girlfriend unit if I'm able to attend.
We hadn't really thought about this yet, because let's face it, nobody's main squeeze was interested in going to Rochester, NY
Not really sure they would have ANY interest in going, even it was in an exotic location. Because then they would want to be out on the beach and not in some IT thing.
I know at least one spouse came to Rochester during MangoCon and did touristy things while the IT talks were happening. Can't remember who it was off the top of my head right now.
I don't know if Houston would be more attractive for doing the touristy stuff or not. 2019 will be the first time I'll have been in Houston other than waving while I drive by in a truck.
Isn't Niagara Falls close to Rochester? (haven't looked at the map yet, so don't hate!)
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@obsolesce said in MangoCon 2019:
@travisdh1 said in MangoCon 2019:
@brrabill said in MangoCon 2019:
@dominica said in MangoCon 2019:
@rojoloco said in MangoCon 2019:
@donahue said in MangoCon 2019:
Is there any cost for bringing a guest? I would love to bring the wife. I doubt she would be interested in the tech, just a vacation.
I was wondering about that as well. I'll probably be bringing the girlfriend unit if I'm able to attend.
We hadn't really thought about this yet, because let's face it, nobody's main squeeze was interested in going to Rochester, NY
Not really sure they would have ANY interest in going, even it was in an exotic location. Because then they would want to be out on the beach and not in some IT thing.
I know at least one spouse came to Rochester during MangoCon and did touristy things while the IT talks were happening. Can't remember who it was off the top of my head right now.
I don't know if Houston would be more attractive for doing the touristy stuff or not. 2019 will be the first time I'll have been in Houston other than waving while I drive by in a truck.
Isn't Niagara Falls close to Rochester? (haven't looked at the map yet, so don't hate!)
1-2 hours away depending on how you drive.
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@obsolesce said in MangoCon 2019:
@travisdh1 said in MangoCon 2019:
@brrabill said in MangoCon 2019:
@dominica said in MangoCon 2019:
@rojoloco said in MangoCon 2019:
@donahue said in MangoCon 2019:
Is there any cost for bringing a guest? I would love to bring the wife. I doubt she would be interested in the tech, just a vacation.
I was wondering about that as well. I'll probably be bringing the girlfriend unit if I'm able to attend.
We hadn't really thought about this yet, because let's face it, nobody's main squeeze was interested in going to Rochester, NY
Not really sure they would have ANY interest in going, even it was in an exotic location. Because then they would want to be out on the beach and not in some IT thing.
I know at least one spouse came to Rochester during MangoCon and did touristy things while the IT talks were happening. Can't remember who it was off the top of my head right now.
I don't know if Houston would be more attractive for doing the touristy stuff or not. 2019 will be the first time I'll have been in Houston other than waving while I drive by in a truck.
Isn't Niagara Falls close to Rochester? (haven't looked at the map yet, so don't hate!)
Yes, it is. 60-90 minutes.
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@travisdh1 said in MangoCon 2019:
I don't know if Houston would be more attractive for doing the touristy stuff or not. 2019 will be the first time I'll have been in Houston other than waving while I drive by in a truck.
Houston is terrible for tourists, and is 4-5 hours away from Dallas. If you went ALL the way to Galveston, then it's good for tourist because of the beaches.
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@scottalanmiller Hah, thats a commute home for me. Tx is just too large sometimes
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@dominica said in MangoCon 2019:
@rojoloco said in MangoCon 2019:
@donahue said in MangoCon 2019:
Is there any cost for bringing a guest? I would love to bring the wife. I doubt she would be interested in the tech, just a vacation.
I was wondering about that as well. I'll probably be bringing the girlfriend unit if I'm able to attend.
We hadn't really thought about this yet, because let's face it, nobody's main squeeze was interested in going to Rochester, NY
Frankly - my wife has no interest in going to Dallas in May either - to bloody hot! plus unless there's a wive's club doing their own thing, she wouldn't be willing to venture out on her own.. and well, at night we'll all be in some bar closing it down.
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@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@nerdydad said in MangoCon 2019:
@dominica Never been to Rochester, but already believes that DFW is a wee bit more appealing than Rochester.
It's more like Austin than you might think. It's actually a very cool town. But not all that big.
Agreed - Scott and Dominica showed me around the day after MLcon - it was fun!
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@dashrender said in MangoCon 2019:
@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@nerdydad said in MangoCon 2019:
@dominica Never been to Rochester, but already believes that DFW is a wee bit more appealing than Rochester.
It's more like Austin than you might think. It's actually a very cool town. But not all that big.
Agreed - Scott and Dominica showed me around the day after MLcon - it was fun!
It's America's first boom town, has loads of speakeasies and cocktail bars (one of the densest in the nation), has loads of museums and historical sites, decent food options if you aren't there for too long, the river, the breweries, and a giant water front.
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@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@dashrender said in MangoCon 2019:
@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@nerdydad said in MangoCon 2019:
@dominica Never been to Rochester, but already believes that DFW is a wee bit more appealing than Rochester.
It's more like Austin than you might think. It's actually a very cool town. But not all that big.
Agreed - Scott and Dominica showed me around the day after MLcon - it was fun!
It's America's first boom town, has loads of speakeasies and cocktail bars (one of the densest in the nation), has loads of museums and historical sites, decent food options if you aren't there for too long, the river, the breweries, and a giant water front.
And... it's actually a upstate NY city that isn't dying. Between it and Buffalo they are actually seeing some population gains.
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@coliver said in MangoCon 2019:
@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@dashrender said in MangoCon 2019:
@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@nerdydad said in MangoCon 2019:
@dominica Never been to Rochester, but already believes that DFW is a wee bit more appealing than Rochester.
It's more like Austin than you might think. It's actually a very cool town. But not all that big.
Agreed - Scott and Dominica showed me around the day after MLcon - it was fun!
It's America's first boom town, has loads of speakeasies and cocktail bars (one of the densest in the nation), has loads of museums and historical sites, decent food options if you aren't there for too long, the river, the breweries, and a giant water front.
And... it's actually a upstate NY city that isn't dying. Between it and Buffalo they are actually seeing some population gains.
So, are people moving away from NYC to upstate? I had a couple of opportunities to work in upstate NY while looking for a job, and the tax situation in the state meant that no employer was offering what I'd consider a reasonable rate after figuring in the living expenses, I was better off working at McDonalds in northeastern Ohio.
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@travisdh1 said in MangoCon 2019:
@coliver said in MangoCon 2019:
@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@dashrender said in MangoCon 2019:
@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@nerdydad said in MangoCon 2019:
@dominica Never been to Rochester, but already believes that DFW is a wee bit more appealing than Rochester.
It's more like Austin than you might think. It's actually a very cool town. But not all that big.
Agreed - Scott and Dominica showed me around the day after MLcon - it was fun!
It's America's first boom town, has loads of speakeasies and cocktail bars (one of the densest in the nation), has loads of museums and historical sites, decent food options if you aren't there for too long, the river, the breweries, and a giant water front.
And... it's actually a upstate NY city that isn't dying. Between it and Buffalo they are actually seeing some population gains.
So, are people moving away from NYC to upstate? I had a couple of opportunities to work in upstate NY while looking for a job, and the tax situation in the state meant that no employer was offering what I'd consider a reasonable rate after figuring in the living expenses, I was better off working at McDonalds in northeastern Ohio.
No. It's an influx of people from out of state as far as I'm aware.
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@coliver said in MangoCon 2019:
@travisdh1 said in MangoCon 2019:
@coliver said in MangoCon 2019:
@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@dashrender said in MangoCon 2019:
@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@nerdydad said in MangoCon 2019:
@dominica Never been to Rochester, but already believes that DFW is a wee bit more appealing than Rochester.
It's more like Austin than you might think. It's actually a very cool town. But not all that big.
Agreed - Scott and Dominica showed me around the day after MLcon - it was fun!
It's America's first boom town, has loads of speakeasies and cocktail bars (one of the densest in the nation), has loads of museums and historical sites, decent food options if you aren't there for too long, the river, the breweries, and a giant water front.
And... it's actually a upstate NY city that isn't dying. Between it and Buffalo they are actually seeing some population gains.
So, are people moving away from NYC to upstate? I had a couple of opportunities to work in upstate NY while looking for a job, and the tax situation in the state meant that no employer was offering what I'd consider a reasonable rate after figuring in the living expenses, I was better off working at McDonalds in northeastern Ohio.
No. It's an influx of people from out of state as far as I'm aware.
Poor suckers. All too literally.
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@coliver said in MangoCon 2019:
@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@dashrender said in MangoCon 2019:
@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@nerdydad said in MangoCon 2019:
@dominica Never been to Rochester, but already believes that DFW is a wee bit more appealing than Rochester.
It's more like Austin than you might think. It's actually a very cool town. But not all that big.
Agreed - Scott and Dominica showed me around the day after MLcon - it was fun!
It's America's first boom town, has loads of speakeasies and cocktail bars (one of the densest in the nation), has loads of museums and historical sites, decent food options if you aren't there for too long, the river, the breweries, and a giant water front.
And... it's actually a upstate NY city that isn't dying. Between it and Buffalo they are actually seeing some population gains.
It was dying for many years, though. It's more of just recovering from the vacuum that got created when Kodak collapsed and Xerox left.
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@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@coliver said in MangoCon 2019:
@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@dashrender said in MangoCon 2019:
@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@nerdydad said in MangoCon 2019:
@dominica Never been to Rochester, but already believes that DFW is a wee bit more appealing than Rochester.
It's more like Austin than you might think. It's actually a very cool town. But not all that big.
Agreed - Scott and Dominica showed me around the day after MLcon - it was fun!
It's America's first boom town, has loads of speakeasies and cocktail bars (one of the densest in the nation), has loads of museums and historical sites, decent food options if you aren't there for too long, the river, the breweries, and a giant water front.
And... it's actually a upstate NY city that isn't dying. Between it and Buffalo they are actually seeing some population gains.
It was dying for many years, though. It's more of just recovering from the vacuum that got created when Kodak collapsed and Xerox left.
Fair.
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@travisdh1 said in MangoCon 2019:
@coliver said in MangoCon 2019:
@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@dashrender said in MangoCon 2019:
@scottalanmiller said in MangoCon 2019:
@nerdydad said in MangoCon 2019:
@dominica Never been to Rochester, but already believes that DFW is a wee bit more appealing than Rochester.
It's more like Austin than you might think. It's actually a very cool town. But not all that big.
Agreed - Scott and Dominica showed me around the day after MLcon - it was fun!
It's America's first boom town, has loads of speakeasies and cocktail bars (one of the densest in the nation), has loads of museums and historical sites, decent food options if you aren't there for too long, the river, the breweries, and a giant water front.
And... it's actually a upstate NY city that isn't dying. Between it and Buffalo they are actually seeing some population gains.
So, are people moving away from NYC to upstate? I had a couple of opportunities to work in upstate NY while looking for a job, and the tax situation in the state meant that no employer was offering what I'd consider a reasonable rate after figuring in the living expenses, I was better off working at McDonalds in northeastern Ohio.
Correct, Upstate NY has a constant flow of people out of the state looking for better opportunities in lower tax areas. It's a beautiful region with great resources and towns and people, and cost of living is low, but the taxes are extreme and it makes doing business up there impractical.
NTG started there and moved out for exactly that reason. Had they had Texas style taxes, we'd never have left.
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I heard that @jclambert is going to be coming
I'm working hard on remembering everyone that told me that they were likely to be there this past week.
