Website hosting: Which direction to go
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@gjacobse said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@dafyre said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@gjacobse said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@dafyre said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@gjacobse said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
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For the sites that you host for you and your brother, could you use a single $5 Vultr instance?
One Server to update (this can be done automatically via cron or systemd)... and then all you'd need to patch would be your Web Apps.
I wonder the same thing - I am likely on a shared IP anyway,.. so a single system would be fine ... likely.
However - what about email(s). I have a number of self hosted email addresses for notifications. how does Vultr system address email addresses for each domain?
That does complicate things somewhat.
Edit: Where are the current email addresses hosted?
They are self hosted. so they are x@domainname. All under my hosting package.
That's the complication I was thinking of. Could always move them to Gmail (not free any more) or O365...
GMail - barf... yea,.. no. I"ll keep what I'm doing then. I already have six GMail accounts.
I use Zoho for all of my mail. My blog is hosted with GitLab pages. Netlify is another popular option for static hosting from Git repos.
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I use (and love) cloudways
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All you need is a CPanel hosting for $20-50 a year. That will handle all email domains and all websites.
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@irj said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
All you need is a CPanel hosting for $20-50 a year. That will handle all email domains and all websites.
Exactly. Anyone telling you to do anything else is flat out selling snake oil for one reason or another.
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@irj said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
All you need is a CPanel hosting for $20-50 a year. That will handle all email domains and all websites.
Assuming you now how to run Wordpress. cPanel itself does not install or maintain apps. You need expensive plugins. So you need more than cPanel hosting.
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@scottalanmiller said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@irj said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
All you need is a CPanel hosting for $20-50 a year. That will handle all email domains and all websites.
Assuming you now how to run Wordpress. cPanel itself does not install or maintain apps. You need expensive plugins. So you need more than cPanel hosting.
Assuming he needs WordPress. That was not part of the OP.
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Wordpress or Joomla! would be the likely - however I know more and more are using WP now.
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@gjacobse said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
Wordpress or Joomla! would be the likely - however I know more and more are using WP now.
Where "now" = "a decade ago".
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@jaredbusch said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@scottalanmiller said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@irj said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
All you need is a CPanel hosting for $20-50 a year. That will handle all email domains and all websites.
Assuming you now how to run Wordpress. cPanel itself does not install or maintain apps. You need expensive plugins. So you need more than cPanel hosting.
Assuming he needs WordPress. That was not part of the OP.
Needs SOME app, I should have said.
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I use Rackspace as they have a nice email option and I get better response times to my blogs than with Vultr. However, as you say, they are mainly hobby sites then I would just use Vultr
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@jmoore said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
I use Rackspace as they have a nice email option and I get better response times to my blogs than with Vultr. However, as you say, they are mainly hobby sites then I would just use Vultr
Yeah most web hosts do email hosting for you. But he has his own, so if he moves to another web host and his NS changes, he'll have to point is MX record to his existing email server. If the DNS hosting stays the same, he won't have to change anything.
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@jmoore said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
I use Rackspace as they have a nice email option and I get better response times to my blogs than with Vultr. However, as you say, they are mainly hobby sites then I would just use Vultr
You are getting better web response from RS than from Vultr? We moved in the opposite direction and felt the performance boost was significant.
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@obsolesce said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@jmoore said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
I use Rackspace as they have a nice email option and I get better response times to my blogs than with Vultr. However, as you say, they are mainly hobby sites then I would just use Vultr
Yeah most web hosts do email hosting for you. But he has his own, so if he moves to another web host and his NS changes, he'll have to point is MX record to his existing email server. If the DNS hosting stays the same, he won't have to change anything.
General rule, DNS should never be the same vendor as your application (web, mail, etc.) hosts.
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@scottalanmiller said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@obsolesce said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@jmoore said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
I use Rackspace as they have a nice email option and I get better response times to my blogs than with Vultr. However, as you say, they are mainly hobby sites then I would just use Vultr
Yeah most web hosts do email hosting for you. But he has his own, so if he moves to another web host and his NS changes, he'll have to point is MX record to his existing email server. If the DNS hosting stays the same, he won't have to change anything.
General rule, DNS should never be the same vendor as your application (web, mail, etc.) hosts.
I agree, but in my case specifically, I don't (or barely) use it. My web host is Dreamhost, and they also do the mail for my domains (and DNS). I get one mail per year maybe, and honestly don't use my own domain mail. I use Gmail and Outlook.
In the OPs case, it's a non-issue as he already stated he does his own mail separately. So his DNS is done either through the new potential web host, where he bought his domains (GoDaddy for example), or through some other service. If it stays the same, he doesn't have to do anything at all for mail to keep working, as the only change would be his web hosting. Otherwise, if he gets a new DNS management / changes nameservers, then he'll have to point his MX record to the mail servers he's already using.
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@scottalanmiller said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@obsolesce said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@jmoore said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
I use Rackspace as they have a nice email option and I get better response times to my blogs than with Vultr. However, as you say, they are mainly hobby sites then I would just use Vultr
Yeah most web hosts do email hosting for you. But he has his own, so if he moves to another web host and his NS changes, he'll have to point is MX record to his existing email server. If the DNS hosting stays the same, he won't have to change anything.
General rule, DNS should never be the same vendor as your application (web, mail, etc.) hosts.
It's a 'hobby' site - so it's all in one. I didn't want, don't want and dont need all the stress and aggravation of multi points.
if it dies, it dies,.. want a bit, and it's fine. I'm not worried about ..
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@scottalanmiller Yep
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@scottalanmiller said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@irj said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
All you need is a CPanel hosting for $20-50 a year. That will handle all email domains and all websites.
Assuming you now how to run Wordpress. cPanel itself does not install or maintain apps. You need expensive plugins. So you need more than cPanel hosting.
Every cpanel installation I've used in the past 5 years comes with softaculous. Which is a one click install for 100+ apps including WordPress, Drupal, Joomla, etc.
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@irj said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@scottalanmiller said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@irj said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
All you need is a CPanel hosting for $20-50 a year. That will handle all email domains and all websites.
Assuming you now how to run Wordpress. cPanel itself does not install or maintain apps. You need expensive plugins. So you need more than cPanel hosting.
Every cpanel installation I've used in the past 5 years comes with softaculous. Which is a one click install for 100+ apps including WordPress, Drupal, Joomla, etc.
It's a separate app that you pay separately for. If you just do cPanel, you only get a demo of Softaculous. I've had them with and without. Most come with it because no one knows how to do anything without it.
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@scottalanmiller said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@irj said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@scottalanmiller said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
@irj said in Website hosting: Which direction to go:
All you need is a CPanel hosting for $20-50 a year. That will handle all email domains and all websites.
Assuming you now how to run Wordpress. cPanel itself does not install or maintain apps. You need expensive plugins. So you need more than cPanel hosting.
Every cpanel installation I've used in the past 5 years comes with softaculous. Which is a one click install for 100+ apps including WordPress, Drupal, Joomla, etc.
It's a separate app that you pay separately for. If you just do cPanel, you only get a demo of Softaculous. I've had them with and without. Most come with it because no one knows how to do anything without it.
IF you host your own server, then yes that is the case. I've used 4 or 5 different hosts and never experienced them that dont come with Softaculous. If you are a web hosting company, you likely have some type of enterprise license for it.
