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    Water Closet
    wtf i cant even that is not how that works
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    • Mike DavisM
      Mike Davis @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

      LOL, that thread is super weird. And the OP doesn't appear to have responded... quite fishy.

      I get the first time posters that ask how to get their laptop to boot and stuff like that. A post about starting a MSP as a first post?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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        @mike-davis said in I can't even:

        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

        LOL, that thread is super weird. And the OP doesn't appear to have responded... quite fishy.

        I get the first time posters that ask how to get their laptop to boot and stuff like that. A post about starting a MSP as a first post?

        Right, exactly. Everyone needs a first post and there are loads of questions to ask, discussions to get into and stuff that make sense. Leaping into "I'm going to run a company managing people like you all... that I need advice from" is really odd.

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        • black3dynamiteB
          black3dynamite
          last edited by

          Why aren’t they moderating repetitive topics too.
          And the horrible titles that doesn’t even go with their post.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
            last edited by

            @black3dynamite said in I can't even:

            Why aren’t they moderating repetitive topics too.
            And the horrible titles that doesn’t even go with their post.

            And I keep getting told contradictory things. Like to "follow community rules" by someone that we know is breaking the rules to post the very post in which they say it. Or telling me to remember to treat the people as professionals - when the very problem is that that's what I did and in reality, he wasn't. They want me to say I'm treating them like professionals, but then actually treat them like children.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              ....

              "Hello People,

              Thank you so much for the answers...and I am sorry for confusing things here with a bad example of a VAR and not a MSP.

              Let me try again to make sense, Here is the plan:

              I have worked for Microsoft (contact Center - Enterprise SBS troubleshooting), Dell and IBM (Managed services division) for more than 15 years now started as a tech resource and grew to a project/Program Manager handling services projects including transitions and transformations.

              1. I would like to start off using the RMM such as Labtech or solarwinds to monitor the clients environment and have them troubleshoot on a need basis. Once a I have a few clients that i manage then i would like to expand/grow.

              2. To grow I can start selling servers and storage etc and then provide services in a package for rack and configure etc - (sorry a bad example in the first go).

              I hope this makes it clear about my MSP intention. However, the question is that I have only worked on Windows technology all my life but sometimes you may get clients with Mainframe and AIX in their DC's so do i reject their contracts? or just provide services related to windows only.

              One of my friend is located in Singapore and can support me with this in a 24*7 model as it is an exact 12 hour difference between Canada and Singapore.

              apart from that I need help with generating leads (THE MOST IMPORTANT) how and where do i get the leads from... I am not a sales person however, I am very good at building repo and working with customers and I have FULL confidence in my self that I will be able to make it through sales (might also consider sales training)

              I also need help with Sales pitches if someone can help with templates or scripts which I may use and modify as per my needs (Voice and Email) that would be good too."

              Doesn't have sales either.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce
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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce @Obsolesce
                  last edited by

                  If you don't want your entire set-up peer-reviewed, why include it? Simply ask your question and leave out the irrelevant stuff.

                  He included all of that stuff on purpose, for the specific purpose of having it reviewed... you can tell.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                    last edited by

                    @tim_g said in I can't even:

                    If you don't want your entire set-up peer-reviewed, why include it? Simply ask your question and leave out the irrelevant stuff.

                    He included all of that stuff on purpose, for the specific purpose of having it reviewed... you can tell.

                    Oh yeah, for sure. He totally set us all up. He was planning on blowing up over us not condescending and treating him like a child from the very start.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                      @tim_g said in I can't even:

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                      That moderation doesn't reflect what you posted at all.

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @Obsolesce
                        last edited by

                        @tim_g said in I can't even:

                        If you don't want your entire set-up peer-reviewed, why include it? Simply ask your question and leave out the irrelevant stuff.

                        He included all of that stuff on purpose, for the specific purpose of having it reviewed... you can tell.

                        Yeah, while I'm sure that answer technically comes under some clause of the Comunity guidelines, the original question would've needed to be correct. By including all that extra detail it's assumed the OP is also asking for comments/questions on the entire post.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Remember that I said that MS MultiPoint Server questions were coming? LOL

                          https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2096476-still-onb-windows-multipoint-server-2016

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce
                            last edited by

                            Yeah well... what can ya do.

                            I suppose if you let more people keep doing what they are doing, more things will break more frequently, therefore keeping MSPs in business such as NTG and B&A ^_^

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                              Remember that I said that MS MultiPoint Server questions were coming? LOL

                              https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2096476-still-onb-windows-multipoint-server-2016

                              that's not really a new question - it's just a re-asking of his old one, this time more appropriately. Granted he still lead off with a tech that he probably shouldn't be using.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                This guy is really angry about how much Windows costs, thinks it is insane, but gets upset if you even ask why he didn't consider a free alternative. Clearly the cost can't be insane if he sees that level of value in it, the two things can't overlap.

                                https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2096480-server-2016-licensing-again

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                                • EddieJenningsE
                                  EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller Personally, I think CALs are silly, but it's model Microsoft chose for licensing. Who are any of us to complain?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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                                    @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                                    @scottalanmiller Personally, I think CALs are silly, but it's model Microsoft chose for licensing. Who are any of us to complain?

                                    How come you think that they are silly? I actually have a pending video made about how great they are. What's the alternative?

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                                    • EddieJenningsE
                                      EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller Not have them. You buy a server for your network and pay for a license of Windows Server. Great! Now your users and devices can connect to it. Rather than buy a server for your network, pay for a license for Windows Server, and pay for a license for each entity that wants to connect to it.

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                                      • EddieJenningsE
                                        EddieJennings
                                        last edited by EddieJennings

                                        Sorry, I answered the "what's the alternative?" question. Why are they silly? I'm of a mind when you buy a server license, that's it. Your users can access the server. Rather than adding to the cost and potential complexity of now paying for each entity to have the right to access the server you just licensed. There's nothing wrong with the choice to use that licensing model. I simply don't prefer it.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                                          last edited by

                                          @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                                          @scottalanmiller Not have them. You buy a server for your network and pay for a license of Windows Server. Great! Now your users and devices can connect to it. Rather than buy a server for your network, pay for a license for Windows Server, and pay for a license for each entity that wants to connect to it.

                                          But that would be insanely expensive for small companies. the company with 10 users would have to pay the same as the one with 1,000 users. SMBs couldn't afford paying enterprise prices.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            CALs are really, really easy - just count your users. Hard to get simpler. And they keep the price down.

                                            CALs are easy and reduce the cost.

                                            What's not to like?

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