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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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      @travisdh1 said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

      @quixoticjustin said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

      @travisdh1 said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

      Violating a websites TOS is a felony...

      Definitely not a felony. At most it is a civil suit.

      https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/01/aarons-law-violating-a-sites-terms-of-service-should-not-land-you-in-jail/267247/

      If you really think you do nothing wrong according to the police/feds, feel free to use this new service.

      How does that relate? That's a totally different thing. That's violating his ISP, not a web site.

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

        @travisdh1 said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

        @quixoticjustin said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

        @travisdh1 said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

        Violating a websites TOS is a felony...

        Definitely not a felony. At most it is a civil suit.

        https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/01/aarons-law-violating-a-sites-terms-of-service-should-not-land-you-in-jail/267247/

        If you really think you do nothing wrong according to the police/feds, feel free to use this new service.

        How does that relate? That's a totally different thing. That's violating his ISP, not a web site.

        Well shoot, that's not how I remember the reporting on the story.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @travisdh1
          last edited by

          @travisdh1 said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

          @scottalanmiller said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

          @travisdh1 said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

          @quixoticjustin said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

          @travisdh1 said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

          Violating a websites TOS is a felony...

          Definitely not a felony. At most it is a civil suit.

          https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/01/aarons-law-violating-a-sites-terms-of-service-should-not-land-you-in-jail/267247/

          If you really think you do nothing wrong according to the police/feds, feel free to use this new service.

          How does that relate? That's a totally different thing. That's violating his ISP, not a web site.

          Well shoot, that's not how I remember the reporting on the story.

          It matters a bit. Consumers using public web sites are generally pretty safe. You still need to follow the TOS, but the ability to prosecute is minimal.

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          • RojoLocoR
            RojoLoco
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            Got Damn.... this whole thread needs to realize that the police are always out to get anything they can on anyone, anytime. Don't play into their game. Don't feed the beast.

            Listen to and absorb the message that KRS-One is laid out in 1993. More true now than ever.

            Youtube Video

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            • brianlittlejohnB
              brianlittlejohn @RojoLoco
              last edited by brianlittlejohn

              @rojoloco said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

              Got Damn.... this whole thread needs to realize that the police are always out to get anything they can on anyone, anytime. Don't play into their game. Don't feed the beast.

              That is why I turn my phone off whenever I get pulled over so it requires a password to unlock instead of my fingerprint. No need to give them any information that is not required by law.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @brianlittlejohn
                last edited by

                @brianlittlejohn said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                @rojoloco said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                Got Damn.... this whole thread needs to realize that the police are always out to get anything they can on anyone, anytime. Don't play into their game. Don't feed the beast.

                That is why I turn my phone off whenever I get pulled over so it requires a password to unlock instead of my fingerprint. No need to give them any information that is not required by law.

                Someone else is as familiar with that law as myself I see...

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
                  last edited by

                  @rojoloco said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                  Got Damn.... this whole thread needs to realize that the police are always out to get anything they can on anyone, anytime. Don't play into their game. Don't feed the beast.

                  And remember, the cops are above the law. Sure the state can go after them if it wants to but as a citizen you have no recourse. So law enforcement agencies are free to lie about their website policies and theree is nothing you can do if they break them. A statement from law enforcement that they won't break the law means nothing. You literally can't trust them, there is no basis for trust.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by coliver

                    @scottalanmiller said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                    @rojoloco said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                    Got Damn.... this whole thread needs to realize that the police are always out to get anything they can on anyone, anytime. Don't play into their game. Don't feed the beast.

                    And remember, the cops are above the law. Sure the state can go after them if it wants to but as a citizen you have no recourse. So law enforcement agencies are free to lie about their website policies and theree is nothing you can do if they break them. A statement from law enforcement that they won't break the law means nothing. You literally can't trust them, there is no basis for trust.

                    Law Enforcement also operates on the notion that "Everyone is guilty until they are proven innocent." Going against many of the tenants of how our justice system is supposed to function. It really brings in an "Us vs Them" mentality that is kind of scary.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @Obsolesce
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                      @tim_g said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                      And for those who are criminals... good, I'm glad it was recorded to help put them away!

                      I guess you're for government and law enforcement agents putting a backdoor into encryption tools to ensure "the good guys" can unlock them?

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @coliver
                        last edited by

                        @coliver said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                        @tim_g said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                        And for those who are criminals... good, I'm glad it was recorded to help put them away!

                        I guess you're for government and law enforcement agents putting a backdoor into encryption tools to ensure "the good guys" can unlock them?

                        No, that's not the same thing.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                          last edited by

                          @tim_g said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                          @coliver said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                          @tim_g said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                          And for those who are criminals... good, I'm glad it was recorded to help put them away!

                          I guess you're for government and law enforcement agents putting a backdoor into encryption tools to ensure "the good guys" can unlock them?

                          No, that's not the same thing.

                          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @jaredbusch said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                            @tim_g said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                            @coliver said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                            @tim_g said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                            And for those who are criminals... good, I'm glad it was recorded to help put them away!

                            I guess you're for government and law enforcement agents putting a backdoor into encryption tools to ensure "the good guys" can unlock them?

                            No, that's not the same thing.

                            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

                            I'm with @JaredBusch I don't see how the two are different.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                              @jaredbusch said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                              @tim_g said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                              @coliver said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                              @tim_g said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                              And for those who are criminals... good, I'm glad it was recorded to help put them away!

                              I guess you're for government and law enforcement agents putting a backdoor into encryption tools to ensure "the good guys" can unlock them?

                              No, that's not the same thing.

                              HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

                              I'm with @JaredBusch I don't see how the two are different.

                              How is adding a back door to all encryption everywhere (no choice given) relate to a hypothetical possibility of an optional open DNS protection service logging which dns names you need resolved to IP addresses?

                              Apples and oranges there...

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                                @rojoloco said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                                Got Damn.... this whole thread needs to realize that the police are always out to get anything they can on anyone, anytime. Don't play into their game. Don't feed the beast.

                                And remember, the cops are above the law. Sure the state can go after them if it wants to but as a citizen you have no recourse. So law enforcement agencies are free to lie about their website policies and theree is nothing you can do if they break them. A statement from law enforcement that they won't break the law means nothing. You literally can't trust them, there is no basis for trust.

                                Their job is lying in order to get people to incriminate themselves.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @Obsolesce
                                  last edited by

                                  @tim_g said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                                  @coliver said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                                  @jaredbusch said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                                  @tim_g said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                                  @coliver said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                                  @tim_g said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                                  And for those who are criminals... good, I'm glad it was recorded to help put them away!

                                  I guess you're for government and law enforcement agents putting a backdoor into encryption tools to ensure "the good guys" can unlock them?

                                  No, that's not the same thing.

                                  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

                                  I'm with @JaredBusch I don't see how the two are different.

                                  How is adding a back door to all encryption everywhere (no choice given) relate to a hypothetical possibility of an optional open DNS protection service logging which dns names you need resolved to IP addresses?

                                  Apples and oranges there...

                                  It's really about surveillance. Do you subscribe to them surveying you when you have options that are less likely to allow them to do so?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    I wonder how many of the agencies that used ComputerCop are behind this new scheme?

                                    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/11/treasury-inspector-general-concludes-fraud-investigation-computercop-internet

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce
                                      last edited by

                                      I stopped testing Quad9 on my computer. I've been having some weird issues with GitLab errors on the website. As soon as I plugged in Google's DNS, it worked.

                                      But then again, a refresh or two got it working again while I was still using Quad9.

                                      I'll update later to report if any issue like that returns now that I'm using Google on my computer.

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @Obsolesce
                                        last edited by

                                        @tim_g said in Quad9 DNS Malicious Domain Blocking Service:

                                        I stopped testing Quad9 on my computer. I've been having some weird issues with GitLab errors on the website. As soon as I plugged in Google's DNS, it worked.

                                        But then again, a refresh or two got it working again while I was still using Quad9.

                                        I'll update later to report if any issue like that returns now that I'm using Google on my computer.

                                        Nope, was not Quad9 related.

                                        I think it's some kind of timeout I never noticed before or GitLab is having issues.

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