If a business were all linux would they use Office 365
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@dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@stacksofplates said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.
I think he means with full features
What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.
Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes
What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?
Libreoffice often requires conversion of the more complex office documents. If you can't seamlessly open them and have everything displayed correctly it's not very useful IMO. It's a little different if you're just starting your company and it starts as linux right in the beginning though.
The topic was about a Linux shop. If we're talking about a mixed shop you have a point, although it's not as big of an issue lately as it has been in the past.
They are likely to receive some type of office documentation via e-mail here so I'm considering that too
Any received or sent document shouldn't be in a doc format. They should be sending, and expecting, documents in pdf.
Bah I responded before I read the whole thread.
Unbelievably, we get quotes that are in all the time in both xls and doc.
I tried blocking doc/docx, etc at the spam filter and the world went into a tail spin!
I once did similar thing and nearly got fired, I blocked email with macros attachment and the financial department went nuts.
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Skimmed entire thread because, WTF.
Seriously, what does the OS have to do with the choice of O365?
Obviously if you cannot run the desktop apps, then there is no reason to pay for a subscription that includes them, but that has nothing to do with the rest of the features of O365 or any other solution such as GStuite.
You buy the solution that fits your needs. O365 has many packages that give you features without the desktop applications.
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@jaredbusch said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
such as GSuite
I think you can run Google Docs apps offline if you install Chrome on Linux. Never tried it, but I know you can run all of the other Chrome apps that way.
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@stacksofplates said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@jaredbusch said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
such as GSuite
I think you can run Google Docs apps offline if you install Chrome on Linux. Never tried it, but I know you can run all of the other Chrome apps that way.
you can but generally they suck. We have gsuite at work (mostly for gmail) and offline mode is terrible IMHO.
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@dustinb3403 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
Just a thought that popped into my head, was if a business from servers to laptops was running RHEL or CentOS for everything, would they opt to use Office365 for email collaboration and Office capabilities?
They might. The decision to use O365 tooling is really quite separate from the choice of desktops today. Sure, you can't install the fat clients of MS Office, but that's only one piece of O365 and one that you might not use anyway.
All the other stuff works fine and even MS Office works in the online mode with Linux. You can use OWA for Exchange or you can use an email client on Linux for it, like Nylas 1 or Evolution.
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@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
Good question. I don't know what your options would be in a business environment. I know a lot of people run it on wine but I think there have been issues doing that as well.
MS Office 2016 doesn't run on Wine. Older versions do.
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@scottalanmiller said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
Good question. I don't know what your options would be in a business environment. I know a lot of people run it on wine but I think there have been issues doing that as well.
MS Office 2016 doesn't run on Wine. Older versions do.
Yet. . .
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@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.
Only inexpensive compared to GSuite which is only a few cents more and only if you are only looking at email with O365. It's pretty pricey, probably the most pricey, enterprise platform of this nature. It only seems cheap in comparison to ridiculously inappropriate solutions like Intermedia or Rackspace Exchange.
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@dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.
I think he means with full features
What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.
Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes
It was and up to 2013 works fine. 2016 probably will, but doesn't yet.
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@dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@stacksofplates said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.
I think he means with full features
What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.
Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes
What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?
Libreoffice often requires conversion of the more complex office documents. If you can't seamlessly open them and have everything displayed correctly it's not very useful IMO. It's a little different if you're just starting your company and it starts as linux right in the beginning though.
The topic was about a Linux shop. If we're talking about a mixed shop you have a point, although it's not as big of an issue lately as it has been in the past.
They are likely to receive some type of office documentation via e-mail here so I'm considering that too
Any received or sent document shouldn't be in a doc format. They should be sending, and expecting, documents in pdf.
Bah I responded before I read the whole thread.
Unbelievably, we get quotes that are in all the time in both xls and doc.
I tried blocking doc/docx, etc at the spam filter and the world went into a tail spin!
I usually receive quotes from vendors in html or pdf.
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@gjacobse said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
Why does it have to be limited to Office / Office 365?
I assume because that's the topic?
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@dustinb3403 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
Would a business opt to use a different solution entirely?
Sure, in many cases. We use a different suite of tools and really like it. Lower cost and in many cases, nicer features.
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@scottalanmiller said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@dustinb3403 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
Would a business opt to use a different solution entirely?
Sure, in many cases. We use a different suite of tools and really like it. Lower cost and in many cases, nicer features.
What did you guys move to? Something self hosted? I know Zoho is in this space and is inexpensive.
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@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.
I think he means with full features
What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.
Can't you only use cloud storage when you use it like that? I could be wrong but I remember a storage limitation like that.
I'm not really sure what you're asking here.
You can't point the online version to a local file server which complicates the end users lives from what I remember although I'm a little hazy on the details
In what real world scenario would you be building an awesome, modern Linux desktop and hosted applications system and be saving files to the desktop? I think you are mixing scenarios. I'm not saying it is impossible, but it's nutty.
Sure, in your job today you don't have the kind of control you need to determine where they save things. But that same lack of control is keeping you from using Linux or Office 365.
Solve one and, in 99.999% of cases, you solve them all.
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@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@scottalanmiller said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@dustinb3403 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
Would a business opt to use a different solution entirely?
Sure, in many cases. We use a different suite of tools and really like it. Lower cost and in many cases, nicer features.
What did you guys move to? Something self hosted? I know Zoho is in this space and is inexpensive.
We are working with Appadillo that is in stealth mode right now, we are demoing their new environments. They are working on offering basically an entire O365 style suite, but all based on open source and at lower costs.
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@scottalanmiller said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.
I think he means with full features
What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.
Can't you only use cloud storage when you use it like that? I could be wrong but I remember a storage limitation like that.
I'm not really sure what you're asking here.
You can't point the online version to a local file server which complicates the end users lives from what I remember although I'm a little hazy on the details
In what real world scenario would you be building an awesome, modern Linux desktop and hosted applications system and be saving files to the desktop? I think you are mixing scenarios. I'm not saying it is impossible, but it's nutty.
Sure, in your job today you don't have the kind of control you need to determine where they save things. But that same lack of control is keeping you from using Linux or Office 365.
Solve one and, in 99.999% of cases, you solve them all.
I agree with you but nothing ever happens that way here.
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@black3dynamite said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@stacksofplates said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.
I think he means with full features
What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.
Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes
What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?
Libreoffice often requires conversion of the more complex office documents. If you can't seamlessly open them and have everything displayed correctly it's not very useful IMO. It's a little different if you're just starting your company and it starts as linux right in the beginning though.
The topic was about a Linux shop. If we're talking about a mixed shop you have a point, although it's not as big of an issue lately as it has been in the past.
They are likely to receive some type of office documentation via e-mail here so I'm considering that too
Any received or sent document shouldn't be in a doc format. They should be sending, and expecting, documents in pdf.
Bah I responded before I read the whole thread.
Unbelievably, we get quotes that are in all the time in both xls and doc.
I tried blocking doc/docx, etc at the spam filter and the world went into a tail spin!
I usually receive quotes from vendors in html or pdf.
Same here, quotes are for reading, not for collaborating on.
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@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@scottalanmiller said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.
I think he means with full features
What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.
Can't you only use cloud storage when you use it like that? I could be wrong but I remember a storage limitation like that.
I'm not really sure what you're asking here.
You can't point the online version to a local file server which complicates the end users lives from what I remember although I'm a little hazy on the details
In what real world scenario would you be building an awesome, modern Linux desktop and hosted applications system and be saving files to the desktop? I think you are mixing scenarios. I'm not saying it is impossible, but it's nutty.
Sure, in your job today you don't have the kind of control you need to determine where they save things. But that same lack of control is keeping you from using Linux or Office 365.
Solve one and, in 99.999% of cases, you solve them all.
I agree with you but nothing ever happens that way here.
What? So you DO have control to put in Linux and Office 365, but the only piece you can't control is where they save the files?
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@emad-r said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
epartment went nuts.
I think if we looked it an another angle, if there is a true stable and opensource or free collaborate office server we can roll, Linux work great as thin client.
I tried NextCloud with Collabora Code also Only Office Container but it is not the same.
Nextcloud is amazing but the real time collaboration parts still need work on, give it a couple of years.
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@dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@stacksofplates said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
@coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:
What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.
I think he means with full features
What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.
Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes
What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?
Libreoffice often requires conversion of the more complex office documents. If you can't seamlessly open them and have everything displayed correctly it's not very useful IMO. It's a little different if you're just starting your company and it starts as linux right in the beginning though.
The topic was about a Linux shop. If we're talking about a mixed shop you have a point, although it's not as big of an issue lately as it has been in the past.
They are likely to receive some type of office documentation via e-mail here so I'm considering that too
Any received or sent document shouldn't be in a doc format. They should be sending, and expecting, documents in pdf.
Bah I responded before I read the whole thread.
Unbelievably, we get quotes that are in all the time in both xls and doc.
I tried blocking doc/docx, etc at the spam filter and the world went into a tail spin!
What kind of people are sending you quotes in collaboration formats? Do you modify the quotes to make them better before returning them? The use of a collaboration format implies that they want you to collaborate on the quote with them. Just alter however you see fit.
