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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      I think moving it is fine. It's like migrating a profile. In some big places where I have worked, your keys were kept in NFS so that no matter here you signed in from, you got your central key. I agree with not having the same key in multiple places. But shifting it from one machine to another is fine.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
        last edited by

        Here is how you do it assuming Fedora/Korora 25

        We are assuming that the username is the same on both machines because this is a migration.

        • On the new machine, start the SSH server. Since this is a laptop/desktop, it should not be running normally.
        systemctl start sshd
        
        • On the new machine, make sure you have no private key yet. There should not be anything here. If there is, you have to figure out what you are already using a private key for.
        [12:53 jbusch ~]$ ls -la ~/.ssh/
        drwx------.  2 jbusch jbusch 4096 May 28 23:50 .
        drwxrwxr-x+ 32 jbusch jbusch 4096 Jun 28 21:38 ..
        
        • On the old machine use rsync to transfer everything.
        rsync /home/jbusch/.ssh/* [email protected]:/home/jbusch/.ssh/
        [email protected]'s password: 
        
        • On your new machine turn the SSH server back off
        systemctl stop sshd
        
        • Test a login from your new machine to some server
        ssh 10.254.0.108
        Last login: Fri Jun 30 12:53:31 2017 from 24.14.15.238
        [jbusch@relay ~]$
        
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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
          last edited by wirestyle22

          @JaredBusch Thanks. This is great. I'm going to spin some VM's up on my home server and do this

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @wirestyle22
            last edited by JaredBusch

            @wirestyle22 said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

            @JaredBusch Thanks. This is great

            Again, you want a unique private key on every device, in order to lock things out discretely. Otherwise if you simply had the same private key everywhere, you would lose all access form every device just because your laptop was compromised and you had to lock out the public key.

            So this process is really only something that should ever happen on a profile migration.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @JaredBusch said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

              @wirestyle22 said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

              @JaredBusch Thanks. This is great

              Again, you want a unique private key on every device, in order to lock things out discretely. Otherwise if you simply had the same private key everywhere, you would lose all access form every device just because your laptop was compromised and you had to lock out the public key.

              So this process is really only something that should ever happen on a profile migration.

              I agree. And you want your keys labelled with their origination device, easier to track.

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @JaredBusch said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

                @wirestyle22 said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

                @JaredBusch Thanks. This is great

                Again, you want a unique private key on every device, in order to lock things out discretely. Otherwise if you simply had the same private key everywhere, you would lose all access form every device just because your laptop was compromised and you had to lock out the public key.

                So this process is really only something that should ever happen on a profile migration.

                Understood. That would make administrating those devices unnecessarily difficult

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

                  @JaredBusch said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

                  @wirestyle22 said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

                  @JaredBusch Thanks. This is great

                  Again, you want a unique private key on every device, in order to lock things out discretely. Otherwise if you simply had the same private key everywhere, you would lose all access form every device just because your laptop was compromised and you had to lock out the public key.

                  So this process is really only something that should ever happen on a profile migration.

                  I agree. And you want your keys labelled with their origination device, easier to track.

                  If you're nuking the profile after you migrate it what benefit would that give you?

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                    last edited by

                    @wirestyle22 said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

                    @scottalanmiller said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

                    @JaredBusch said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

                    @wirestyle22 said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

                    @JaredBusch Thanks. This is great

                    Again, you want a unique private key on every device, in order to lock things out discretely. Otherwise if you simply had the same private key everywhere, you would lose all access form every device just because your laptop was compromised and you had to lock out the public key.

                    So this process is really only something that should ever happen on a profile migration.

                    I agree. And you want your keys labelled with their origination device, easier to track.

                    If you're nuking the profile after you migrate it what benefit would that give you?

                    He means on the server side.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                      @wirestyle22 said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

                      @scottalanmiller said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

                      @JaredBusch said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

                      @wirestyle22 said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

                      @JaredBusch Thanks. This is great

                      Again, you want a unique private key on every device, in order to lock things out discretely. Otherwise if you simply had the same private key everywhere, you would lose all access form every device just because your laptop was compromised and you had to lock out the public key.

                      So this process is really only something that should ever happen on a profile migration.

                      I agree. And you want your keys labelled with their origination device, easier to track.

                      If you're nuking the profile after you migrate it what benefit would that give you?

                      That you know that that one key still represents just one device.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch @scottalanmiller OH, got it. Thanks.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @JaredBusch
                          last edited by stacksofplates

                          @JaredBusch said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

                          @wirestyle22 said in SSH Keys and migrating to a new device:

                          @JaredBusch Thanks. This is great

                          Again, you want a unique private key on every device, in order to lock things out discretely. Otherwise if you simply had the same private key everywhere, you would lose all access form every device just because your laptop was compromised and you had to lock out the public key.

                          So this process is really only something that should ever happen on a profile migration.

                          Ya it's a big advantage to having automounted home directories or having LDAP store the keys. You can easily revoke and add another key and have it work everywhere.

                          Or using Kerberos instead of pub/priv keys.

                          I realize @JaredBusch knows this, but for others who may not.

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