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    • momurdaM
      momurda
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      Generally only as long as required by law, and not a day longer.
      For financial firms it is something liek 3 years on site retention, 7 years offsite retention.

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      • momurdaM
        momurda
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        @momurda said in Historical Data Retention:

        Generally only as long as required by law, and not a day longer.
        For financial firms it is something liek 3 years on site retention, 7 years offsite retention.

        If you happen to work where retention isnt required by law, you probably arent going to do it.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @momurda
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          @momurda said in Historical Data Retention:

          @momurda said in Historical Data Retention:

          Generally only as long as required by law, and not a day longer.
          

          For financial firms it is something liek 3 years on site retention, 7 years offsite retention.

          If you happen to work where retention isnt required by law, you probably arent going to do it.

          Well you shouldn't at least, because if you have it, it can be subject to discovery if when you get sued for something.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @momurda
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            @momurda said in Historical Data Retention:

            Generally only as long as required by law, and not a day longer.

            This exactly. Old data is bad in most cases.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said in Historical Data Retention:

              @momurda said in Historical Data Retention:

              @momurda said in Historical Data Retention:

              Generally only as long as required by law, and not a day longer.
              

              For financial firms it is something liek 3 years on site retention, 7 years offsite retention.

              If you happen to work where retention isnt required by law, you probably arent going to do it.

              Well you shouldn't at least, because if you have it, it can be subject to discovery if when you get sued for something.

              Yup. Run away from unnecessarily stored data.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @momurda
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                @momurda said in Historical Data Retention:

                For financial firms it is something liek 3 years on site retention, 7 years offsite retention.

                3 years for standard data. 7 years for actual trades or whatever. No onsite/offsite stuff. Not even a concept of that. What's onsite to an institution when the data is never onsite in the first place?

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                • Mike DavisM
                  Mike Davis
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                  On the other hand, old data can be very useful for architect/engineering type companies. They may not store the project records forever, but the drawings have value. In that case the space on a server to store an old drawing compared to a current one is laughable since the file sizes keep increasing.

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                  • C
                    Carnival Boy
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                    Correct. We manufacture products that typically last 30 years or so. We occasionally get requests for spare parts for products that we sold 50 years ago.

                    It's a pain. Last week a user said "I'm having trouble reviewing a quote I sent someone a while back." Reason: the quote was created in 2002 using Microsoft Office Binder (OBD). I didn't even know what an .OBD file was.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates
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                      We are required to keep engineering docs for 60 years since our product is guaranteed for that long. Until a few years ago they still used microfiche, but we are using a certain type of DVD now that supposedly lasts for like hundreds of years.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce
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                        I believe best practice is to keep data retention long enough for legal needs, and long enough for business needs... such as the examples @Carnival-Boy and @stacksofplates gave. Each individual business should decide what data could be needed in the future and plan a retention plan appropriately.

                        I don't think there's a standard amount of time as a best practice, as it varies way too much business to business, state to state, country to country, due to so many reasons.

                        Every business will be different.

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                        • KimberlinK
                          Kimberlin
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                          Thanks for all the info. I appreciate it. We have been a small/young division since we started but now we are getting larger and older meaning questions like "Do we need or will we ever need all this data for customers that are no longer using our services?" are needing to be asked. So thanks again, all your replies have been very helpful.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Most important thing is a written policy that gets followed.

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Historical Data Retention:

                              Most important thing is a written policy that gets followed.

                              Can't stress this enough!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                @Carnival-Boy said in Historical Data Retention:

                                Correct. We manufacture products that typically last 30 years or so. We occasionally get requests for spare parts for products that we sold 50 years ago.

                                It's a pain. Last week a user said "I'm having trouble reviewing a quote I sent someone a while back." Reason: the quote was created in 2002 using Microsoft Office Binder (OBD). I didn't even know what an .OBD file was.

                                That's a new format for me, too.

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                                • dbeatoD
                                  dbeato @Mike Davis
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                                  @Mike-Davis Yes!, this happen all the time with all the construction companies I work with. With some staff using Project 97 since it still works on Windows 7.... I was floored

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @dbeato
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                                    @dbeato said in Historical Data Retention:

                                    @Mike-Davis Yes!, this happen all the time with all the construction companies I work with. With some staff using Project 97 since it still works on Windows 7.... I was floored

                                    Discovering new "old" formats that you've never seen before?

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                                    • dbeatoD
                                      dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller not really, just some I don't remember

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @dbeato
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                                        @dbeato said in Historical Data Retention:

                                        @scottalanmiller not really, just some I don't remember

                                        I have started to forget about MS Project completely. It's been so long since I knew of anyone actively considered using it. So many alternatives that are not so costly and don't have old fashioned web clients have made it fall into the background of technology history. Once people mention it, I remember it. But ask me about project management software and I never think of it anymore.

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Historical Data Retention:

                                          @dbeato said in Historical Data Retention:

                                          @scottalanmiller not really, just some I don't remember

                                          I have started to forget about MS Project completely. It's been so long since I knew of anyone actively considered using it. So many alternatives that are not so costly and don't have old fashioned web clients have made it fall into the background of technology history. Once people mention it, I remember it. But ask me about project management software and I never think of it anymore.

                                          Which ones are on your table now?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                            @Tim_G said in Historical Data Retention:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Historical Data Retention:

                                            @dbeato said in Historical Data Retention:

                                            @scottalanmiller not really, just some I don't remember

                                            I have started to forget about MS Project completely. It's been so long since I knew of anyone actively considered using it. So many alternatives that are not so costly and don't have old fashioned web clients have made it fall into the background of technology history. Once people mention it, I remember it. But ask me about project management software and I never think of it anymore.

                                            Which ones are on your table now?

                                            Well take this with a grain of sand as I'm not a PM so these aren't tools that I look at often, or else I'm sure that MS Project would not have been forgotten, but things like Asana and Jira are far more front and center. When someone just says "I need a PM tool", Asana is the first thing that comes to mind these days.

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