Salary, Are You At Your Areas Median
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@travisdh1 said in Salary:
I'm looking for something else mostly because of the lack of money.
More IT people need to do this. Complacence with low pay leads to lower industrial pay.
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@marcinozga said in Salary:
Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.
Don't stress over certs or degree. All are useless and quickly obsolete, perhaps only Redhat has a value.
Not even that one. Six months working in Linux you earn so much more than that cert gets you. Only job that I know that really cares about that cert only pays $35K. I've never run into Linux work higher pay than that that was really concerned with the cert.
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@scottalanmiller said in Salary:
Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.
No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.
In your case I guess experience top all certs.
For people who just started certs is for stepping stone for an interview. I'm learning a lot with Win2012R2 servers and such.
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@scottalanmiller said in Salary:
Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.
No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.
In your case I guess experience top all certs.
For people who just started certs is for stepping stone for an interview. I'm learning a lot with Win2012R2 servers and such.
I had to get through that barrier too
Although I did list certs back then, but I know for a fact none of them got me my jobs since I know (and still know) the guy that hired me at my first "real" job after I had certs and he never asked about them and every job since then was unrelated to my certs and/or they were not listed. -
I am not close either. But i also dont work for Amazon or Microsoft, the two largest IT employers in WA, and who give money away like it was going out of style.
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@scottalanmiller said in Salary:
Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.
No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.
You do realize that you are the exception and not the rule, right?
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I am not close either. But i also dont work for Amazon or Microsoft, the two largest IT employers in WA, and who give money away like it was going out of style.
Maybe you should then!
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@scottalanmiller said in Salary:
Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.
No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.
You do realize that you are the exception and not the rule, right?
How many people do you see trying it, though?
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P.S. Are you guys comparing your exact position or just the IT median for your state?
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@scottalanmiller said in Salary:
@scottalanmiller said in Salary:
Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.
No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.
You do realize that you are the exception and not the rule, right?
How many people do you see trying it, though?
All I'm saying is that for the uncertified, undegreed masses without the notoriety attached to your name, it's more of a struggle than you've encountered in 2 decades.
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No degree here. I think at this point, there isn't much an incentive for me to get one.
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The median for my state is lower than the my position pay for my state. Luckily I slightly exceed the median for my position.
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@scottalanmiller said in Salary:
@scottalanmiller said in Salary:
Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.
No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.
You do realize that you are the exception and not the rule, right?
How many people do you see trying it, though?
All I'm saying is that for the uncertified, undegreed masses without the notoriety attached to your name, it's more of a struggle than you've encountered in 2 decades.
But I did all of my career without the notoriety. So that isn't a factor. Sure now, things are different. But jump from six figures to seven was because of my name. But getting to six figures was not. I had no degree (at all, at that point) and no relevant certs and it never was an issue for my entire career, job after job. And I did a lot of jobs. Never once have I had it be a factor and I was in IT a long time before being famous and have only ever looked for work once since having some fame.
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No but I also don't expect to
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@wirestyle22 said in Salary:
No but I also don't expect to
why not?
I am always hired for job x which I am qualified for and then given responsibilities y which i am not qualified for
