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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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      @Carnival-Boy said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

      No I don't. I don't need to use a different tool. I prefer File Explorer. But the Windows search works perfectly and as designed for me.

      What's the value in the other tool then? And why then the surprise that we want to use the intended tool?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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        @Carnival-Boy said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

        If you're talking about a Windows search that is the generic search tool, that searches for applications, web apps etc etc, well, why would you use that to search for files in a specific directory. You wouldn't. You'd use File Explorer.

        Here above you acted like we were nuts for using the Windows search tool. I'm looking for installed applications, and it can't find them, routinely.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          My daughter has a Windows 10 laptop, I'll have to check hers later to see if it exhibits the same issue with searching that mine does for the same application, since one that I know can't be found on mine is also on hers.

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            Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

            @Carnival-Boy said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

            @scottalanmiller said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

            @Tim_G sees that you need to modify search options to make it work.

            No he doesn't. He writes "I haven't configured anything on my personal PC, and searching is 100% for me"

            He had said that he needed to turn off Bing searches.

            If you don't want search to include Bing searches then you turn it off. That's a feature, not a bug.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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              @Carnival-Boy said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

              @scottalanmiller said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

              @Carnival-Boy said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

              @scottalanmiller said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

              @Tim_G sees that you need to modify search options to make it work.

              No he doesn't. He writes "I haven't configured anything on my personal PC, and searching is 100% for me"

              He had said that he needed to turn off Bing searches.

              If you don't want search to include Bing searches then you turn it off. That's a feature, not a bug.

              "Feature". It undermines the use cases that Microsoft touted and causes Windows to no longer work as we were told to use it. Yes, you can turn it off. But we should have needed to turn it on. It's a changed interface reaction without a changed interface process. It causes Windows to have been very useful and now be problematic when used in an identical manner. "Needing extra unnecessary management" is not a feature.

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                Carnival Boy
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                I get that new versions of software have new features that you don't like. Software evolves. But that's not what you said. You said that everyone is seeing something different.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                  @Carnival-Boy said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

                  I get that new versions of software have new features that you don't like. Software evolves. But that's not what you said. You said that everyone is seeing something different.

                  Both. It evolves, but there are "new features" and there is "unreliable interfaces", those are not the same. You can add a new feature without creating a situation where old actions no longer produce the same results. It's considered one of the fundamentals of good interface design - keep the same action doing the same thing. Add new "features" of course, but changing an interface is not a feature, it's a change to an old feature.

                  But seeing things differently is important. What's likely key here is different people searching for different things. I search essentially only for applications and only because Microsoft told me how I was supposed to do this to do things the "Microsoft way" and I adapted. It worked perfectly once I did. From Vista through 8.1 it made things work. The Metro interface was still jarring and totally disruptive to me, but if I closed my eyes and kept working as before, things still worked the same. And on my Linux desktops, all of the ones that I use implement that same Microsoft-recommended interface design. Hit the Windows key, type the name of the application you want to run, hit enter.

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                    Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

                    Hit the Windows key, type the name of the application you want to run, hit enter.

                    But you're the only one claiming that this doesn't work properly.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                      @Carnival-Boy said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

                      Hit the Windows key, type the name of the application you want to run, hit enter.

                      But you're the only one claiming that this doesn't work properly.

                      No, if it returns dangerous unpredictable results by default (web results) then it does not work as originally intended and stated by MS. So if you feel web results are in there, then you agree that it does not work the same as before. Originally it was safe that you would never suddenly expose data to the Internet via this process by default. If you accidentally typed a password there, for example, or you just didn't want to publicize what you are looking for on your desktop, it was not a security concern. It's very different today.

                      So we are agreeing on how it works. You are just saying, I think, that you think it is a feature and I'm saying that I feel that they broken interface that they themselves promoted.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

                        @Carnival-Boy said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

                        Hit the Windows key, type the name of the application you want to run, hit enter.

                        But you're the only one claiming that this doesn't work properly.

                        No, if it returns dangerous unpredictable results by default (web results) then it does not work as originally intended and stated by MS. So if you feel web results are in there, then you agree that it does not work the same as before. Originally it was safe that you would never suddenly expose data to the Internet via this process by default. If you accidentally typed a password there, for example, or you just didn't want to publicize what you are looking for on your desktop, it was not a security concern. It's very different today.

                        So we are agreeing on how it works. You are just saying, I think, that you think it is a feature and I'm saying that I feel that they broken interface that they themselves promoted.

                        It is working exactly as Microsoft intends. Just because Microsoft changed their intention and you do not like it, does not mean it is not as intended.

                        But again, I have no issues with it because it shows all of my data correctly when I search for something.

                        So you have issues with it. Not everyone. You are exaggerating your point of view as total fact when it it is not.

                        Staying up to date means you accept change. Even if it is a change you do not like.

                        Implement appropriate security in your applications (search in this case).

                        If web results are insecure in your application, disable them.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

                          It is working exactly as Microsoft intends. Just because Microsoft changed their intention and you do not like it, does not mean it is not as intended.

                          I said as originally intended. It's a changed interface, that was my point. Not that it wasn't intentionally changed.

                          I'm not the one that brought up the issue here, I only mentioned that I had similar issues to Dash who had been asked what issues he saw.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch said in Windows: Finding Files with PowerShell:

                            It is working exactly as Microsoft intends. Just because Microsoft changed their intention and you do not like it, does not mean it is not as intended.

                            I agree that it is (mostly) working as MS intends for it to work in Windows 10.

                            I miss the days when MS used to force people through tutorials upon first logon... people learned the new features, where made aware of the changes to default things like this.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce
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                              Even with Bing search results turned on, I still find my apps and data I search for. Sometimes I search for an app I think I have, but I don't. Then I click the Bing result which sends me on my way to getting it. Nice feature if you ask me, and I would rather have it than not have it. If I'm dumb enough to type my password in my start menu for who knows what reason, then the Microsoft servers deserve to have it cached in there as my search history. Too bad for me then, I deserve it!

                              I think it's a handy feature for home use. I keep it turned on and haven't touched any settings on my home PC. At work, different story. I turned off just about everything, but then again we're using "Pro" version here.

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                              • nadnerBN
                                nadnerB
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                                Turn off Bing searches in Windows 10

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @nadnerB
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                                  @nadnerB I wonder if it's possible to disable the "search online" with GPO...

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said in Windows 10 Search:

                                    @nadnerB I wonder if it's possible to disable the "search online" with GPO...

                                    It is and has been mentioned long ago in this thread.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch I must've missed it, I saw the post that @nadnerB posted last night from my mobile.

                                      I'll find it.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said in Windows 10 Search:

                                        @JaredBusch I must've missed it, I saw the post that @nadnerB posted last night from my mobile.

                                        I'll find it.

                                        not sure if the specific setting was listed but it was noted by someone that they disable it by GPO.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch Maybe @scottalanmiller forked that portion into a different topic, as it is not in this one.

                                          Any ideas?

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 https://mangolassi.it/post/277862

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