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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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      @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.

      Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?

      Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are two of the best RPG's ever but I don't compare every game to the best games of all time. A game can still be good without being the best.

      I enjoyed both of those.

      Those were amazing. Great stories. I like the FF games from the era as well. Like FF 3 - 6.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.

        Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?

        Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are two of the best RPG's ever but I don't compare every game to the best games of all time. A game can still be good without being the best.

        I enjoyed both of those.

        Those were amazing. Great stories. I like the FF games from the era as well. Like FF 3 - 6.

        FF6 is probably my favorite from that line.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          Grinding seems to be what most games on mobile devices are these days - Just not my thing.

          Angry Birds was cool because it was about a single mission trying to do the thing. But walking all over a map to collect info to then assemble a puzzle - yeah I think I just put my finger on it.

          I don't care for games that have a long term goal, nor do I care for twitch games (FPS).

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            Grinding seems to be what most games on mobile devices are these days - Just not my thing.

            Angry Birds was cool because it was about a single mission trying to do the thing. But walking all over a map to collect info to then assemble a puzzle - yeah I think I just put my finger on it.

            I don't care for games that have a long term goal, nor do I care for twitch games (FPS).

            By and large, I agree. The new Final Fantasy Exvius is not so bad, because you get little bits of the story as you complete each place you go. I havent' made up my mind if it's a fun game or not, but it's not terribly boring yet.

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            • art_of_shredA
              art_of_shred Banned @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              Grinding seems to be what most games on mobile devices are these days - Just not my thing.

              Angry Birds was cool because it was about a single mission trying to do the thing. But walking all over a map to collect info to then assemble a puzzle - yeah I think I just put my finger on it.

              I don't care for games that have a long term goal, nor do I care for twitch games (FPS).

              Same here. I'm a GTA kind of player. Give me a gun, a car, and a target. Hunt around a map and talk to people to find a hidden key? Screw that. Imma blow some stuff up!

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @art_of_shred
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                @art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                Grinding seems to be what most games on mobile devices are these days - Just not my thing.

                Angry Birds was cool because it was about a single mission trying to do the thing. But walking all over a map to collect info to then assemble a puzzle - yeah I think I just put my finger on it.

                I don't care for games that have a long term goal, nor do I care for twitch games (FPS).

                Same here. I'm a GTA kind of player. Give me a gun, a car, and a target. Hunt around a map and talk to people to find a hidden key? Screw that. Imma blow some stuff up!

                I hate shooters and twitch games. Just not my style at all. I am a huge JRPG style play or a RTS.

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                • KellyK
                  Kelly @wirestyle22
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                  @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.

                  Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?

                  Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are two of the best RPG's ever but I don't compare every game to the best games of all time. A game can still be good without being the best

                  Yes, but they were contemporaries on the same platform. If you aren't comparing it against the good games of the era, what do you compare against to call it a fantastic game? Or are you saying that the entire era was pretty much amazing? I'm not saying that it was the worst of the era, but it was in an era with some pretty amazing competition. What titles do you feel it was better than, for example?

                  There's a lot of crappy games for the SNES that came out in 1991. Inindo: Way of the Ninja is one example, but there are a lot of them. I can't think of a game that has come out in the past decade that I can honestly say is better than either Chrono Trigger or Secret of Mana though regardless of the technological advances we've made. I don't personally care about graphics I only care about the gameplay. I actually really liked this game called Crawl which is on steam but only supports local multiplayer. One of my projects is going to be building an arcade machine of it.

                  I really wanted Inindo to be good. Really, really wanted it to. It had so much potential.

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    Grinding seems to be what most games on mobile devices are these days - Just not my thing.

                    Angry Birds was cool because it was about a single mission trying to do the thing. But walking all over a map to collect info to then assemble a puzzle - yeah I think I just put my finger on it.

                    I don't care for games that have a long term goal, nor do I care for twitch games (FPS).

                    Same here. I'm a GTA kind of player. Give me a gun, a car, and a target. Hunt around a map and talk to people to find a hidden key? Screw that. Imma blow some stuff up!

                    I hate shooters and twitch games. Just not my style at all. I am a huge JRPG style play or a RTS.

                    Company of Heroes fan by chance?

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @Kelly
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                      @Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.

                      Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?

                      Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are two of the best RPG's ever but I don't compare every game to the best games of all time. A game can still be good without being the best

                      Yes, but they were contemporaries on the same platform. If you aren't comparing it against the good games of the era, what do you compare against to call it a fantastic game? Or are you saying that the entire era was pretty much amazing? I'm not saying that it was the worst of the era, but it was in an era with some pretty amazing competition. What titles do you feel it was better than, for example?

                      There's a lot of crappy games for the SNES that came out in 1991. Inindo: Way of the Ninja is one example, but there are a lot of them. I can't think of a game that has come out in the past decade that I can honestly say is better than either Chrono Trigger or Secret of Mana though regardless of the technological advances we've made. I don't personally care about graphics I only care about the gameplay. I actually really liked this game called Crawl which is on steam but only supports local multiplayer. One of my projects is going to be building an arcade machine of it.

                      I really wanted Inindo to be good. Really, really wanted it to. It had so much potential.

                      I loved fire n' ice for the SNES 😄 I was obsessed with that game growing up

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
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                        I just read this small article about the Sunk Cost Fallacy. Dinner For Schmucks made an appearance in the article.

                        Figured I'd post it for reference if anyone else ever finds them selves being stupid.

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 Interesting. I can't think of anything I applied this train of thought to

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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                            @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @DustinB3403 Interesting. I can't think of anything I applied this train of thought to

                            Which means you likely are in the sunk cost fallacy a lot.

                            A simple example is you have a server that is nothing but trouble, so you keep trying to fix the issue when the simple solution is to just reinstall or replace the hardware.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @DustinB3403 Interesting. I can't think of anything I applied this train of thought to

                              Which means you likely are in the sunk cost fallacy a lot.

                              A simple example is you have a server that is nothing but trouble, so you keep trying to fix the issue when the simple solution is to just reinstall or replace the hardware.

                              I can see what you mean

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @DustinB3403 Interesting. I can't think of anything I applied this train of thought to

                                Which means you likely are in the sunk cost fallacy a lot.

                                A simple example is you have a server that is nothing but trouble, so you keep trying to fix the issue when the simple solution is to just reinstall or replace the hardware.

                                Ug - we have this problem with our building HVAC. it's been having issue for 10+ years... we've been through at least 3 vendors - and according to my boss, not one of them has said we should just replace it.

                                Of course they don't say that because it's not in their best interest - they don't keep getting to bilk us for repair work.

                                Getting out of Sunk Cost Fallacy requires you to do it to yourself.

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @DustinB3403 Interesting. I can't think of anything I applied this train of thought to

                                  Which means you likely are in the sunk cost fallacy a lot.

                                  A simple example is you have a server that is nothing but trouble, so you keep trying to fix the issue when the simple solution is to just reinstall or replace the hardware.

                                  Ug - we have this problem with our building HVAC. it's been having issue for 10+ years... we've been through at least 3 vendors - and according to my boss, not one of them has said we should just replace it.

                                  Of course they don't say that because it's not in their best interest - they don't keep getting to bilk us for repair work.

                                  Getting out of Sunk Cost Fallacy requires you to do it to yourself.

                                  In my position I'm managing someones elses hardware so I can't make those types of decisions unfortunately. They have the last word.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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                                    @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @DustinB3403 Interesting. I can't think of anything I applied this train of thought to

                                    Which means you likely are in the sunk cost fallacy a lot.

                                    A simple example is you have a server that is nothing but trouble, so you keep trying to fix the issue when the simple solution is to just reinstall or replace the hardware.

                                    Ug - we have this problem with our building HVAC. it's been having issue for 10+ years... we've been through at least 3 vendors - and according to my boss, not one of them has said we should just replace it.

                                    Of course they don't say that because it's not in their best interest - they don't keep getting to bilk us for repair work.

                                    Getting out of Sunk Cost Fallacy requires you to do it to yourself.

                                    In my position I'm managing someones elses hardware so I can't make those types of decisions unfortunately. They have the last word.

                                    In that case, they are in a sunk cost fallacy, if you are recommending they replace it, and they don't. Then you bill them to support it, it is their issue, and not yours.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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                                      @wirestyle22 Now if you found out its costing you more to support this system than it would be to just fire the client, then you are in a sunk cost fallacy of your own.

                                      But that could be fixed by charging the client more money.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                        @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @DustinB3403 Interesting. I can't think of anything I applied this train of thought to

                                        Which means you likely are in the sunk cost fallacy a lot.

                                        A simple example is you have a server that is nothing but trouble, so you keep trying to fix the issue when the simple solution is to just reinstall or replace the hardware.

                                        Ug - we have this problem with our building HVAC. it's been having issue for 10+ years... we've been through at least 3 vendors - and according to my boss, not one of them has said we should just replace it.

                                        Of course they don't say that because it's not in their best interest - they don't keep getting to bilk us for repair work.

                                        Getting out of Sunk Cost Fallacy requires you to do it to yourself.

                                        In my position I'm managing someones elses hardware so I can't make those types of decisions unfortunately. They have the last word.

                                        Making them the head of IT. Keep in mind that IT always runs someone else's network. That's just what IT is.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @wirestyle22 Now if you found out its costing you more to support this system than it would be to just fire the client, then you are in a sunk cost fallacy of your own.

                                          But that could be fixed by charging the client more money.

                                          Well, technically keeping the client because you already have them would be sunk cost at that point.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @wirestyle22 Now if you found out its costing you more to support this system than it would be to just fire the client, then you are in a sunk cost fallacy of your own.

                                            But that could be fixed by charging the client more money.

                                            Well, technically keeping the client because you already have them would be sunk cost at that point.

                                            Well, only if he isn't profiting from the relationship. He makes a recommendation for the client to save money and time. He's paid no matter what.

                                            And he'd bill for the time spent supporting a trouble system. Maybe with ever increasing cost to support the system.

                                            It's purely the client not wanting to upgrade for one reason or another.

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