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    • coliverC
      coliver
      last edited by coliver

      Looks like md0 based on speed alone.

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      • ChrisLC
        ChrisL
        last edited by ChrisL

        We just published a blog this morning on RAID arrays, fault tolerance, etc. For someone that isn't well versed in the data storage aspect, I thought it was a nice little insight into how it works.

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        • thwrT
          thwr @ChrisL
          last edited by

          @ChrisL said in Internal Storage is always better.:

          We just published a blog this morning on RAID arrays, fault tolerance, etc. For someone that isn't well versed in the data storage aspect, I thought it was a nice little insight into how it works.

          Your link is broken (check the lowercase L in front of http, known bug)

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          • ChrisLC
            ChrisL @thwr
            last edited by

            @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

            @ChrisL said in Internal Storage is always better.:

            We just published a blog this morning on RAID arrays, fault tolerance, etc. For someone that isn't well versed in the data storage aspect, I thought it was a nice little insight into how it works.

            Your link is broken (check the lowercase L in front of http, known bug)

            FIXED. here's the link as well: http://www.colocationamerica.com/blog/what-is-raid-fault-tolerance

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

              I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

              Double check those...

              md2, RAID1, speed=54044
              md1, RAID1, speed=1213
              md0, RAID10, speed=761

              The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

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              • coliverC
                coliver @travisdh1
                last edited by

                @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

                Double check those...

                md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                md1, RAID1, speed=1213
                md0, RAID10, speed=761

                The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

                md0,speed=76109K/sec
                md1,speed=12136K/sec
                md2,speed=54044K/sec.

                So md1 is the slowest and md0 is the fastest.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @travisdh1
                  last edited by

                  @travisdh1 Maybe I'm reading it wrong from the size of the screengrab,

                  But I read md0 as 76109K/sec and md1 as 12136K/sec and md2 as 54044K/sec

                  Clearly md0 is faster.

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                  • thwrT
                    thwr @travisdh1
                    last edited by

                    @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                    I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

                    Double check those...

                    md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                    md1, RAID1, speed=1213
                    md0, RAID10, speed=761

                    The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

                    DAS should not have a huge impact IMHO. It's still direct attached, there are just expanders (read: ~ "USB Hubs") in between.

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @thwr
                      last edited by

                      @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                      @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                      I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

                      Double check those...

                      md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                      md1, RAID1, speed=1213
                      md0, RAID10, speed=761

                      The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

                      DAS should not have a huge impact IMHO. It's still direct attached, there are just expanders (read: ~ "USB Hubs") in between.

                      I'm not reading my own screen grab right, missing the line split 😞

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                      • thwrT
                        thwr @travisdh1
                        last edited by

                        @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                        I'm not reading my own screen grab right, missing the line split

                        exactly. It is:

                        md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                        md1, RAID1, speed=12136
                        md0, RAID10, speed=76109

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                        • thwrT
                          thwr @thwr
                          last edited by

                          @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                          I'm not reading my own screen grab right, missing the line split

                          exactly. It is:

                          md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                          md1, RAID1, speed=12136
                          md0, RAID10, speed=76109

                          So why is your md1 this slow?

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1
                            last edited by

                            Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

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                            • thwrT
                              thwr @travisdh1
                              last edited by

                              @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                              Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                              but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @thwr
                                last edited by

                                @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @travisdh1
                                  last edited by

                                  @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                  @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                  @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                  Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                  but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                  Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                                  You said you had 5400RPM drives? That would account for the slowness.

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                                  • thwrT
                                    thwr @travisdh1
                                    last edited by

                                    @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                    @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                    @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                    Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                    but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                    Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                                    Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

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                                    • thwrT
                                      thwr @thwr
                                      last edited by

                                      @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                      @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                      Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                      but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                      Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                                      Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

                                      The 6 disk RAID 10 should be 3 times faster, but I'm not sure about this. Don't know how up to date this http://wintelguy.com/raidperf2.pl is

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @thwr
                                        last edited by

                                        @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                        @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                        Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                        but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                        Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                                        Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

                                        The expanders are 4 drives each, and the RAID 10 is 6 drives of one of the two channels and the RAID1 is two drives on one.

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                                        • thwrT
                                          thwr @travisdh1
                                          last edited by

                                          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                          but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                          Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                                          Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

                                          The expanders are 4 drives each, and the RAID 10 is 6 drives of one of the two channels and the RAID1 is two drives on one.

                                          Ah ok

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            So this looks like an MD array, is this running on XenServer?

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