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    • thwrT
      thwr @travisdh1
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      @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

      @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

      I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

      Double check those...

      md2, RAID1, speed=54044
      md1, RAID1, speed=1213
      md0, RAID10, speed=761

      The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

      DAS should not have a huge impact IMHO. It's still direct attached, there are just expanders (read: ~ "USB Hubs") in between.

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @thwr
        last edited by

        @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

        @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

        @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

        I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

        Double check those...

        md2, RAID1, speed=54044
        md1, RAID1, speed=1213
        md0, RAID10, speed=761

        The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

        DAS should not have a huge impact IMHO. It's still direct attached, there are just expanders (read: ~ "USB Hubs") in between.

        I'm not reading my own screen grab right, missing the line split 😞

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        • thwrT
          thwr @travisdh1
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          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

          I'm not reading my own screen grab right, missing the line split

          exactly. It is:

          md2, RAID1, speed=54044
          md1, RAID1, speed=12136
          md0, RAID10, speed=76109

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          • thwrT
            thwr @thwr
            last edited by

            @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

            @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

            I'm not reading my own screen grab right, missing the line split

            exactly. It is:

            md2, RAID1, speed=54044
            md1, RAID1, speed=12136
            md0, RAID10, speed=76109

            So why is your md1 this slow?

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1
              last edited by

              Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

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              • thwrT
                thwr @travisdh1
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                @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @thwr
                  last edited by

                  @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                  @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                  Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                  but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                  Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @travisdh1
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                    @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                    @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                    @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                    Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                    but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                    Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                    You said you had 5400RPM drives? That would account for the slowness.

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                    • thwrT
                      thwr @travisdh1
                      last edited by

                      @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                      @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                      @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                      Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                      but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                      Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                      Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

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                      • thwrT
                        thwr @thwr
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                        @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                        @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                        @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                        @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                        Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                        but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                        Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                        Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

                        The 6 disk RAID 10 should be 3 times faster, but I'm not sure about this. Don't know how up to date this http://wintelguy.com/raidperf2.pl is

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @thwr
                          last edited by

                          @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                          @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                          Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                          but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                          Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                          Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

                          The expanders are 4 drives each, and the RAID 10 is 6 drives of one of the two channels and the RAID1 is two drives on one.

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                          • thwrT
                            thwr @travisdh1
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                            @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                            @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                            @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                            @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                            @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                            Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                            but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                            Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                            Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

                            The expanders are 4 drives each, and the RAID 10 is 6 drives of one of the two channels and the RAID1 is two drives on one.

                            Ah ok

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
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                              So this looks like an MD array, is this running on XenServer?

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
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                                Also you've got approx 8TB of space there, correct?

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                  Also you've got approx 8TB of space there, correct?

                                  Yes.

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                    So this looks like an MD array, is this running on XenServer?

                                    It is. Hopefully I won't have any oddness formatting these as ext3 when that completes.

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                                    • thwrT
                                      thwr @travisdh1
                                      last edited by

                                      @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                      So this looks like an MD array, is this running on XenServer?

                                      It is. Hopefully I won't have any oddness formatting these as ext3 when that completes.

                                      Any reason for not using ext4?

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @travisdh1
                                        last edited by

                                        @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                        So this looks like an MD array, is this running on XenServer?

                                        It is. Hopefully I won't have any oddness formatting these as ext3 when that completes.

                                        I was going to ask the same question that @thwr asked, along with what is the hardware set?

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          So this looks like an MD array, is this running on XenServer?

                                          It is. Hopefully I won't have any oddness formatting these as ext3 when that completes.

                                          I was going to ask the same question that @thwr asked, along with what is the hardware set?

                                          WD RED and Seagate NAS drives for the RAID 10, whatever 1TB drives happened to be lying around for the two RAID1 sets. (I prefer HGST drives when buying drives today.)

                                          ext3, because XenServer

                                          Apparently, XenServer is one of those "we don't get storage" vendors.

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