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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by

      I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

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      • coliverC
        coliver
        last edited by coliver

        Looks like md0 based on speed alone.

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        • ChrisLC
          ChrisL
          last edited by ChrisL

          We just published a blog this morning on RAID arrays, fault tolerance, etc. For someone that isn't well versed in the data storage aspect, I thought it was a nice little insight into how it works.

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          • thwrT
            thwr @ChrisL
            last edited by

            @ChrisL said in Internal Storage is always better.:

            We just published a blog this morning on RAID arrays, fault tolerance, etc. For someone that isn't well versed in the data storage aspect, I thought it was a nice little insight into how it works.

            Your link is broken (check the lowercase L in front of http, known bug)

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            • ChrisLC
              ChrisL @thwr
              last edited by

              @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

              @ChrisL said in Internal Storage is always better.:

              We just published a blog this morning on RAID arrays, fault tolerance, etc. For someone that isn't well versed in the data storage aspect, I thought it was a nice little insight into how it works.

              Your link is broken (check the lowercase L in front of http, known bug)

              FIXED. here's the link as well: http://www.colocationamerica.com/blog/what-is-raid-fault-tolerance

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

                Double check those...

                md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                md1, RAID1, speed=1213
                md0, RAID10, speed=761

                The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @travisdh1
                  last edited by

                  @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                  I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

                  Double check those...

                  md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                  md1, RAID1, speed=1213
                  md0, RAID10, speed=761

                  The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

                  md0,speed=76109K/sec
                  md1,speed=12136K/sec
                  md2,speed=54044K/sec.

                  So md1 is the slowest and md0 is the fastest.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @travisdh1
                    last edited by

                    @travisdh1 Maybe I'm reading it wrong from the size of the screengrab,

                    But I read md0 as 76109K/sec and md1 as 12136K/sec and md2 as 54044K/sec

                    Clearly md0 is faster.

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                    • thwrT
                      thwr @travisdh1
                      last edited by

                      @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                      I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

                      Double check those...

                      md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                      md1, RAID1, speed=1213
                      md0, RAID10, speed=761

                      The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

                      DAS should not have a huge impact IMHO. It's still direct attached, there are just expanders (read: ~ "USB Hubs") in between.

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @thwr
                        last edited by

                        @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                        @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                        I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

                        Double check those...

                        md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                        md1, RAID1, speed=1213
                        md0, RAID10, speed=761

                        The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

                        DAS should not have a huge impact IMHO. It's still direct attached, there are just expanders (read: ~ "USB Hubs") in between.

                        I'm not reading my own screen grab right, missing the line split 😞

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                        • thwrT
                          thwr @travisdh1
                          last edited by

                          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                          I'm not reading my own screen grab right, missing the line split

                          exactly. It is:

                          md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                          md1, RAID1, speed=12136
                          md0, RAID10, speed=76109

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                          • thwrT
                            thwr @thwr
                            last edited by

                            @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                            @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                            I'm not reading my own screen grab right, missing the line split

                            exactly. It is:

                            md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                            md1, RAID1, speed=12136
                            md0, RAID10, speed=76109

                            So why is your md1 this slow?

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1
                              last edited by

                              Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

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                              • thwrT
                                thwr @travisdh1
                                last edited by

                                @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @thwr
                                  last edited by

                                  @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                  @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                  Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                  but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                  Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @travisdh1
                                    last edited by

                                    @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                    @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                    @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                    Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                    but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                    Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                                    You said you had 5400RPM drives? That would account for the slowness.

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                                    • thwrT
                                      thwr @travisdh1
                                      last edited by

                                      @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                      @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                      Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                      but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                      Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                                      Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

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                                      • thwrT
                                        thwr @thwr
                                        last edited by

                                        @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                        @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                        Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                        but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                        Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                                        Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

                                        The 6 disk RAID 10 should be 3 times faster, but I'm not sure about this. Don't know how up to date this http://wintelguy.com/raidperf2.pl is

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @thwr
                                          last edited by

                                          @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                          but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                          Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                                          Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

                                          The expanders are 4 drives each, and the RAID 10 is 6 drives of one of the two channels and the RAID1 is two drives on one.

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                                          • thwrT
                                            thwr @travisdh1
                                            last edited by

                                            @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                            @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                            @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                            @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                            @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                            Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                            but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                            Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                                            Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

                                            The expanders are 4 drives each, and the RAID 10 is 6 drives of one of the two channels and the RAID1 is two drives on one.

                                            Ah ok

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