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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said in Enterprise USB drives:

      Will XS even boot from a read-only boot drive?

      I think it would crash as it writes more than just logs to the boot device...

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @BRRABill
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        @BRRABill said in Enterprise USB drives:

        @Dashrender said in Enterprise USB drives:

        Will XS even boot from a read-only boot drive?

        I think it would crash as it writes more than just logs to the boot device...

        Right, I would think the same. So while I understand @DustinB3403 desire to keep XS from writing logs to the USB/SD card, write protecting it probably won't work.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in Enterprise USB drives:

          @BRRABill said in Enterprise USB drives:

          @Dashrender said in Enterprise USB drives:

          Will XS even boot from a read-only boot drive?

          I think it would crash as it writes more than just logs to the boot device...

          Right, I would think the same. So while I understand @DustinB3403 desire to keep XS from writing logs to the USB/SD card, write protecting it probably won't work.

          That was just a thought, the important item here to take away is if you know of any "enterprise" grade usb's let me know.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            Since I don't think there is a general use case for something like this, I don't know of any "enterprise class" USB sticks, or SD cards for that matter.

            When you start worrying about these types of things, you replace them with SSD or HDD I would guess.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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              @FATeknollogee said in Enterprise USB drives:

              @scottalanmiller said in Enterprise USB drives:

              @DustinB3403 said in Enterprise USB drives:

              @scottalanmiller said in Enterprise USB drives:

              It's called an SD card and they are very common.

              No sir, that is not USB, I didn't stutter in my post! Different interface entirely.

              Actually it's not. SD uses USB under the hood. It just moves the connection point. SD is the better design of USB.

              SD cards survive the writes much better than USB sticks?

              SD cards are generally higher quality, like SAS and SATA, it's convention not technology. The two are literally the same thing, just one has the adapter built on, the other does not. But SD cards have the ro/rw switch built on.

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              • MattSpellerM
                MattSpeller @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Enterprise USB drives:

                So here is one such model. http://store.kanguru.com/products/kanguru-ss3

                We use them

                Unless you have a VERY SPECIFIC NEED - avoid at all costs.

                It's just a big, slow, exceptionally expensive USB drive that you accidently switch into RO and continually get frustrated with.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @MattSpeller
                  last edited by stacksofplates

                  @MattSpeller said in Enterprise USB drives:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Enterprise USB drives:

                  So here is one such model. http://store.kanguru.com/products/kanguru-ss3

                  We use them

                  Unless you have a VERY SPECIFIC NEED - avoid at all costs.

                  It's just a big, slow, exceptionally expensive USB drive that you accidently switch into RO and continually get frustrated with.

                  I have a 30 and 60 of these: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=A8360320&ST=pla&dgc=ST&cid=302824&lid=5758064&acd=12309152537461010&ven1=A8360320:112781467989:901pdb6671:c&ven2=:

                  They're pretty nice.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
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                    I think the better question is WTF he wants clones of hypervisor boot drives for.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      To protect from the chance of a USB dying.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said in Enterprise USB drives:

                        To protect from the chance of a USB dying.

                        Who cares. Install, connect to SR, move on.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in Enterprise USB drives:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Enterprise USB drives:

                          To protect from the chance of a USB dying.

                          Who cares. Install, connect to SR, move on.

                          Assuming you have Metadata backed up, and you have the process instructions, this really is pretty easy to do.

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @DustinB3403
                            last edited by MattSpeller

                            @DustinB3403 said in Enterprise USB drives:

                            To protect from the chance of a USB dying.

                            This may be one of those "Quantity has a Quality all of it's own" kinda situations.

                            Go get yourself a 4 pack of good quality drives, set all of them up and tape 3 of them to the back of your server or where ever floats your boat.

                            Replace annually or whatever you see fit.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @MattSpeller
                              last edited by

                              @MattSpeller said in Enterprise USB drives:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Enterprise USB drives:

                              To protect from the chance of a USB dying.

                              This may be one of those "Quantity has a Quality all of it's own" kinda situations.

                              Go get yourself a 4 pack of good quality drives, set all of them up and tape 3 of them to the back of your server or where ever floats your boat.

                              Replace annually or whatever you see fit.

                              That's the goal 🙂

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in Enterprise USB drives:

                                @MattSpeller said in Enterprise USB drives:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Enterprise USB drives:

                                To protect from the chance of a USB dying.

                                This may be one of those "Quantity has a Quality all of it's own" kinda situations.

                                Go get yourself a 4 pack of good quality drives, set all of them up and tape 3 of them to the back of your server or where ever floats your boat.

                                Replace annually or whatever you see fit.

                                That's the goal 🙂

                                If you want to spend some more serious cash:

                                http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147511

                                http://www.newegg.ca/External-SSDs/SubCategory/ID-2022

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @MattSpeller
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                                  @MattSpeller said in Enterprise USB drives:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Enterprise USB drives:

                                  To protect from the chance of a USB dying.

                                  This may be one of those "Quantity has a Quality all of it's own" kinda situations.

                                  Go get yourself a 4 pack of good quality drives, set all of them up and tape 3 of them to the back of your server or where ever floats your boat.

                                  Replace annually or whatever you see fit.

                                  He cannot, because the metadata will be invalid.

                                  Again, the point of keeping the hypervisor on a different drive is to make replacing it simple. Simply resinstall and import the virtual machines however your hypervisor requires.

                                  In the case of XS, you simply reinstall, point to the storage repository and then restore the last backup of the metadata. If not backup, just create a new VM and attach the disks.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch actually you can clone a USB from a working xs install, use the clone to boot, and just go.

                                    No need to repoint to the storage or make any changes.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Enterprise USB drives:

                                      @JaredBusch actually you can clone a USB from a working xs install, use the clone to boot, and just go.

                                      No need to repoint to the storage or make any changes.

                                      JB's point I think is that if you have an old clone, the metadata might no longer be valid.

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                                      • MattSpellerM
                                        MattSpeller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in Enterprise USB drives:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Enterprise USB drives:

                                        @JaredBusch actually you can clone a USB from a working xs install, use the clone to boot, and just go.

                                        No need to repoint to the storage or make any changes.

                                        JB's point I think is that if you have an old clone, the metadata might no longer be valid.

                                        epic eyeroll

                                        My point remains the same.

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