Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?
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@BRRABill said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
This is different from this thread, but I still think that I can trust someone who gets financially rewarded.
For example, I would trust clicking the ads here on ML. Assuming ML is not out to get me.
Why? Why do you trust the ads here more than the stuff on the shelf at BB?
I would say I would only trust the ads at ML slightly more because I know the community. But only barely. What I do trust is the interaction between the vendors who participate in the threads themselves, that has nothing to do with the ads.
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@Dashrender said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
@BRRABill said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
This is different from this thread, but I still think that I can trust someone who gets financially rewarded.
For example, I would trust clicking the ads here on ML. Assuming ML is not out to get me.
Why? Why do you trust the ads here more than the stuff on the shelf at BB?
I would say I would only trust the ads at ML slightly more because I know the community. But only barely. What I do trust is the interaction between the vendors who participate in the threads themselves, that has nothing to do with the ads.
I totally trust the ads... to be ads. They are exactly what they come across as. I can vouch for them, as I physically place them there. None are malware, if that is what you are concerned about. ML ensures this my hosting plain images, not applications that look like images, and linking to sensible URLs.
I find the idea of trust very odd here. Best Buy, I mostly trust to have the real products on the shelves and not Chinese knock offs and stuff like that. Is that what people mean by trust?
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I trust that the community I trust would never knowingly point me in a direction that would harm me.
Perhaps I am too trusting.
This is CLEARLY where my issue with all of this is. (Not the whole thread, just my part of it.)
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@Dashrender said
I would say I would only trust the ads at ML slightly more because I know the community. But only barely. What I do trust is the interaction between the vendors who participate in the threads themselves, that has nothing to do with the ads.
What are you "trusting" in this case?
Sounds like that's a pretty dangerous road to go down.
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@scottalanmiller said
I find the idea of trust very odd here. Best Buy, I mostly trust to have the real products on the shelves and not Chinese knock offs and stuff like that. Is that what people mean by trust?
I trust that if I go to my doctor, and they have an ad for XYZ on the wall, that it isn't going to kill me if I take it.
Is there more than one XYZ? Sure. Is it possible XYZ could be bad for me? Sure.
But if I am looking for something like XYZ and my doctor is recommending it, I think it's pretty safe to trust.
That's what I mean.
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@scottalanmiller said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
I have no idea what you are talking about. Implementation is a standard part of consulting. The attempt to totally separate them isn't useful here and is just cloudying the waters.
What? Seems like this is exactly what we've been going around about. The pure consultant only provides "recommendations" about what to do, and wouldn't normally be involved in the actual implementation in order to avoid all bias.
@scottalanmiller said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
I thought only Sith cared about absolutes
The path to the dark side is a slippery one.
Arguments lead to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.@scottalanmiller said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
I don't think that anyone can say that they only look at the absolute.
Hello. My name is Zack.
@scottalanmiller said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
Saying that only $10K sounds like real money to you can't be the case.
Unless affiliate income is not the business model and thus not required to stay afloat.
@scottalanmiller said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
The problem is just getting you to be happy with what the name of doing sales means... that you are a VAR. Actually, in that case, you are not a VAR, just a reseller.
My problem is apply VAR to my entire life and business after such a recommendation.
To the point, that specific job was a VAR role. But it could very well be 20 minutes later I take a consulting job where I apply a totally different tactic and role that is not a VAR type.
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@scottalanmiller said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
@Dashrender said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
@BRRABill said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
This is different from this thread, but I still think that I can trust someone who gets financially rewarded.
For example, I would trust clicking the ads here on ML. Assuming ML is not out to get me.
Why? Why do you trust the ads here more than the stuff on the shelf at BB?
I would say I would only trust the ads at ML slightly more because I know the community. But only barely. What I do trust is the interaction between the vendors who participate in the threads themselves, that has nothing to do with the ads.
I totally trust the ads... to be ads. They are exactly what they come across as. I can vouch for them, as I physically place them there. None are malware, if that is what you are concerned about. ML ensures this my hosting plain images, not applications that look like images, and linking to sensible URLs.
I find the idea of trust very odd here. Best Buy, I mostly trust to have the real products on the shelves and not Chinese knock offs and stuff like that. Is that what people mean by trust?
Sure - I suppose, but I don't trust that guy working at Best Buy to know anything about the products they sell, or that that can help me make the best decision on what to buy for my use. Sadly - 99% do think they can trust that BB employee to tell them the best, the real best, thing for the person to buy.
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I would trust ML to not run ads for "Curtis IT Services" just because he paid a lot.
There are only two options then.
Option 1) ML knows something about technology and to some degree would not run ads that promote known-bad products.
Option 2) ML knows something about technology and shows ads for crap stuff on purpose for the money.
Either way, option 1 I can reasonably trust the ads here show decent tech products. Option 2 hurts ML's very reputation as a knowledgeable tech community.
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ML only runs ads for Vendors we KNOW. Which means tech people have tested out and trust. And not just my team but other IT people as well.
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@Minion-Queen said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
ML only runs ads for Vendors we KNOW. Which means tech people have tested out and trust. And not just my team but other IT people as well.
That's what I would think.
But that is not what is coming across in @scottalanmiller's argument.
They are just ads, nothing more. No recommendations. Buyer beware.
I would think they are ads from tech people you know and have been tested and you trust.
Which is EXACTLY what I have been saying, and is exactly what this thread is saying not to trust.
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POST 600!
(Sorry, couldn't resist!)
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@guyinpv said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
I would trust ML to not run ads for "Curtis IT Services" just because he paid a lot.
Okay, that's a point. But if McDonald's paid to run an add, I guarantee you'll see Egg McMuffins and Big Macs over on the side bar and no one is vetting to see if they are tasty, healthy or whatever.
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@BRRABill said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
POST 600!
(Sorry, couldn't resist!)
This thread is taking over!
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@BRRABill said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
They are just ads, nothing more. No recommendations. Buyer beware.
But truthfully, they are NOT recommendations from a consulting firm. They are recommendations from a marketing firm. I think you are reading into an add far too much.
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@BRRABill said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
I would think they are ads from tech people you know and have been tested and you trust.
Which tech people do you think that they are from?
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@BRRABill said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
Which is EXACTLY what I have been saying, and is exactly what this thread is saying not to trust.
No, you SHOULD trust them... to be marketing ads!
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@scottalanmiller said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
@guyinpv said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
I would trust ML to not run ads for "Curtis IT Services" just because he paid a lot.
Okay, that's a point. But if McDonald's paid to run an add, I guarantee you'll see Egg McMuffins and Big Macs over on the side bar and no one is vetting to see if they are tasty, healthy or whatever.
If you were running a gourmet food advice forum, would you feel the same way?
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@scottalanmiller said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
@BRRABill said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
I would think they are ads from tech people you know and have been tested and you trust.
Which tech people do you think that they are from?
"ML only runs ads for Vendors we KNOW. Which means tech people have tested out and trust. And not just my team but other IT people as well."
Would make me think ... ML!
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@BRRABill said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
@scottalanmiller said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
@guyinpv said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
I would trust ML to not run ads for "Curtis IT Services" just because he paid a lot.
Okay, that's a point. But if McDonald's paid to run an add, I guarantee you'll see Egg McMuffins and Big Macs over on the side bar and no one is vetting to see if they are tasty, healthy or whatever.
If you were running a gourmet food advice forum, would you feel the same way?
Would make you look pretty ridiculous if so.
Would be like a church running ads for prostitutes.
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@BRRABill said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
@BRRABill said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
@scottalanmiller said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
@guyinpv said in Home business ideas for transition out of 9-5?:
I would trust ML to not run ads for "Curtis IT Services" just because he paid a lot.
Okay, that's a point. But if McDonald's paid to run an add, I guarantee you'll see Egg McMuffins and Big Macs over on the side bar and no one is vetting to see if they are tasty, healthy or whatever.
If you were running a gourmet food advice forum, would you feel the same way?
Would make you look pretty ridiculous if so.
Would be like a church running ads for prostitutes.
But churches running ads at all would be ridiculous. A church isn't an advertising platform or marketing company (well okay, that might be an argument to make, but you know what I mean.) A gourmet food advice forum running McDonald's ads would not be weird in the slightest, not even remotely. It's a "magazine" and they run ads. If you think that the running of ads implies something similar to advice, that's a major point of confusion. There are two huge mistakes there: one is assuming a social contract that does not exist, at all. The second is assuming that the platform of discussion is the same as being an expert. That's not at all the case. GS/ML is not a tech company, it's a social media marketing company. Assuming that they are giving you IT advice is a very bad idea, that is not why they are here. They are a platform for us to give each other advice.
