Struggling to Understand Kernel and OS Separation
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@scottalanmiller said in What is a Linux Distro:
@stacksofplates said in What is a Linux Distro:
@cnewman said in What is a Linux Distro:
@stacksofplates
@scottalanmiller
It seems I'll have to email these sites to confirm Linux is NOT an Operating and is ONLY a Kernel as a system as Scott Stated, I'll do so on Monday.End of discussion.
You could always do it now, just program the email. Then use the GUI on the Kernel to hit the send button.
Yeah, email works around the clock... unless you were planning on sending this from your BBS system and your time slot hasn't come up yet.
I'm waiting on the email address for Offix right now, I'll email them right this second if you provide it. You asked me to reach out to them, but I dont want to call them now and just leave a message. But I'll email straight away,
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@stacksofplates thanks! I'm on it. Want to email him too?
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@cnewman said in What is a Linux Distro:
Now email them and ell them that Linux is a Kernel, if not I'll bring this thread to their attention to correct you. I mean windows has a Kernel too right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_kernelLinux is a Kernel like Windows with a UI or GUI
Unix is much different except Apple OSX is written over top of a Unix Kernel. C'mon man WTF is wrong with you
OS X is based on NextStep, which is based on BSD which is based on UNIX. Similar to Linux, there are different flavors like FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD.
Here's some simplified chart to show you the relations between and origins of Linux, BSD and OS X:
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@cnewman said in What is a Linux Distro:
Yes Printers are Programmable, I mean how do you think they do what the y do now, F)(&*ing Magic
Don't want to divert the thread, but I'm curious: What exactly are you developing? New PCL interpreters? Embedded networking stacks? Printer management software, e.g. job scheduling, accounting and similar things? Form management?
I'm just asking because I am myself a developer with a little embedded background here and there.
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@thwr said in What is a Linux Distro:
@cnewman said in What is a Linux Distro:
Yes Printers are Programmable, I mean how do you think they do what the y do now, F)(&*ing Magic
Don't want to divert the thread, but I'm curious: What exactly are you developing? New PCL interpreters? Embedded networking stacks? Printer management software, e.g. job scheduling, accounting and similar things? Form management?
I'm just asking because I am myself a developer with a little embedded background here and there.
Nevermind, there is a dedicated thread for this: https://mangolassi.it/topic/10680/programming-printers
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@cnewman we reached out to your reference but, unfortunately, he was unable to speak for you as you had hoped and only wanted to clarify that you were his customer, not someone who worked for him.
But you can see that now that we are not BBS dependent, email works around the clock. We no longer have to wait until Monday to send a message and often times people will even respond before working hours. Given the modern, multicultural world, what is the weekend to some is working days to others. So waiting for your own working hours to attempt messaging really is not as sensible as would have been in the phone-only or intra-office mail days of the 1960s. And email is now essentially always instant as email systems as "always on" today, rather than connecting only from time to time like with your telnet-connection BBS examples that you show.
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Maybe @cnewman you meant to give us the email address of your actual employer but got confused as to which was which? If you'd like to try again, we'll contact another company for you and see if they are willing to vouch for you? What's reference number two going to be?
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@cnewman said in Struggling to Understand Kernel and OS Separation:
Does Unix automatically expand disc space like Windows?
Unix is not an OS. So blue run as fast as Usain Bolt? See, it's nonsensical. That's why we have these explanations about kernel vs. OS, API vs. kernel, etc. And this is why semantics and accuracy always matter in IT.
If you just use words that you have heard and don't know what they are or what they represent, you end up asking questions that have no meaning.
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Do not forget that the linux.com link he provided actually says exactly what we have been saying. I quoted it earlier.
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And he brought it to SW. Thanks @RojoLoco for linking tp the thread.
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@cnewman said in Struggling to Understand Kernel and OS Separation:
SAM you have so many like but you're so stupid at times.. WTF is wrong with you, are rewriting history?
https://mangolassi.it/topic/60/our-community-guidelines
No personally attacking any user.
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@cnewman said in Struggling to Understand Kernel and OS Separation:
@stacksofplates
@scottalanmiller
It seems I'll have to email these sites to confirm Linux is NOT an Operating and is ONLY a Kernel as a system as Scott Stated, I'll do so on Monday.End of discussion.
I'm not sure @cnewman AKA Curtis3363 is even qualified to work with this kernel...
...and btw, it's Monday, so please post the responses you received that would certainly poke massive holes in your daft notions of how things work.
....printer programming??? Seriously, go back to the looney bin you escaped from, you need those meds they were giving you.
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Oh yes, it is Monday. He promised to email Linspire and let us know that they were not an OS.
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That was enjoyable, but I feel a bit dumber now after reading all that.
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All that needs to be done to prove that Linux is an Operating System is to provide us a screenshot as an example of the OS installed and running.
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@RamblingBiped said in Struggling to Understand Kernel and OS Separation:
All that needs to be done to prove that Linux is an Operating System is to provide us a screenshot as an example of the OS installed and running.
We've been waiting on this.
And those letters from the companies that he accuses of not making OSes and not having GUIs, too.
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I'm wondering how @cnewman is getting a conversation with Linspire considering they disappeared a full eight years ago...
https://www.linux.com/news/linspire-going-away
ANd even Freespire, the OS that replaced Linspire, is long gone with its domain pointing to:
http://treatment.dentalimplantslifeline.com/
And even Xandros, the company that bought Linspire, eight years ago before shutting it down, has been gone long enough to no longer have a website.
Inquiring minds want to know!
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By the way, Wikipedia says that Corel Linux was an OS. Just saying.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corel_Linux
THis is another one that @cnewman asked us to verify with. A rare OS that didn't last even a year disappearing in 2000. Yeah, sixteen years ago. Corel Linux was dead and gone for eight years before Linspire packed up and vanished.
I feel like he's intentionally searching out OSes in the hope that no one knows what the words were any longer to try to hide his shame. Or does he really think that these are the Linux based OSes around?
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Likewise, Mandrake Linux disappeared in 2005. Now we could give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he meant Mandriva, not Mandrake, and that would give him until 2011. Still, either five years or eleven years since those products disappeared.
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It's telling that @cnewman failed to even be able to name a single current or business class OS built on Linux. None have existed for at least five years. All three were total jokes in their time - all meant for children or hobbyists or really, really incapable and non-technical end users.
And all three were specifically built around an all-GUI experience which goes against @cnewman's own claims that Linux cannot have a GUI as he defined it as being GUIless as part of what made it Linux.
Clearly, he's never even encountered a Linux system before. Over and over again the same issues... not even able to produce a plausible lie.
