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    • guyinpvG
      guyinpv @tiagom
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      @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

      @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

      And I couldn't get them to stop. They would just chuckle "ya ya ya I know I shouldn't put stuff there, but it's just easy and fast for me to work that way..."

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        tiagom
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        If you made a script to auto empty the trash, they would stop very quickly haha.

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @guyinpv
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          @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

          @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

          @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

          And I couldn't get them to stop. They would just chuckle "ya ya ya I know I shouldn't put stuff there, but it's just easy and fast for me to work that way..."

          It's easier and faster for me to just drop your paycheck into the shredder, I think I'll do that from now on.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @travisdh1
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            @travisdh1 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

            @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

            @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

            @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

            And I couldn't get them to stop. They would just chuckle "ya ya ya I know I shouldn't put stuff there, but it's just easy and fast for me to work that way..."

            It's easier and faster for me to just drop your paycheck into the shredder, I think I'll do that from now on.

            and it saves on postage too 🙂

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            • guyinpvG
              guyinpv @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

              @travisdh1 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

              @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

              @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

              @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

              And I couldn't get them to stop. They would just chuckle "ya ya ya I know I shouldn't put stuff there, but it's just easy and fast for me to work that way..."

              It's easier and faster for me to just drop your paycheck into the shredder, I think I'll do that from now on.

              and it saves on postage too 🙂

              psshh, direct deposit yo. It's 2016.

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              • RojoLocoR
                RojoLoco @guyinpv
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                @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                @travisdh1 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                @guyinpv Wow that's amazingly stupid.

                And I couldn't get them to stop. They would just chuckle "ya ya ya I know I shouldn't put stuff there, but it's just easy and fast for me to work that way..."

                It's easier and faster for me to just drop your paycheck into the shredder, I think I'll do that from now on.

                and it saves on postage too 🙂

                psshh, direct deposit yo. It's 2016.

                And my company finally got direct deposit... in 2016.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @guyinpv
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                  @guyinpv said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                  I've stopped emptying people's Recycle Bin because I keep finding out people "store stuff there" cause they "know how to find it" quickly.

                  One particular boss of mine used to "store" stuff in the Recycle Bin (same with email trash) because it was so easy to just click <delete> on a file and know exactly where it went to find later. She would eventually purge trash items over a certain age.

                  One too many times getting a deer-in-headlights look when someone found out I emptied the trash while cleaning up the system. "I wanted those files!!!!"

                  This has become incredibly common. It's insane.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @tiagom
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                    @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                    If you made a script to auto empty the trash, they would stop very quickly haha.

                    Yup, something that cleans on reboot, for example. Like how some UNIX systems make /tmp ephemeral.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      I thought by default Outlook liked to empty the trash bin? At least it used it... it warned you.. but if you clicked yet it was emptied.

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                        tiagom @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender Don't believe so, at least not what i have seen. Its a setting that needs to be enabled.

                        Probably a GPO that sets it somewhere?

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @tiagom
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                          @tiagom said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                          @Dashrender Don't believe so, at least not what i have seen. Its a setting that needs to be enabled.

                          Probably a GPO that sets it somewhere?

                          https://i.imgur.com/DyN422x.png

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                            I thought by default Outlook liked to empty the trash bin? At least it used it... it warned you.. but if you clicked yet it was emptied.

                            Mine does, after two years.

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                              tiagom @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender Your screen shot shows it disabled.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Yet another... didn't virtualize but it would have protected you. This is another one of those "unknowns" that sure, you would never guess that you would need virtualization for this reason, but it would have been all that was needed to make this a non-issue.

                                https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1782739-how-do-i-convert-server-2012-datacenter-r2-to-server-2012-datacenter

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                                • NetworkNerdN
                                  NetworkNerd
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                                  This is my personal favorite - https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/232181-disaster-recovery-on-the-fly-is-a-disaster-waiting-to-happen?page=1. I'm sure @scottalanmiller remembers this one.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
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                                    @NetworkNerd I try to forget.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                      Yet another... didn't virtualize but it would have protected you. This is another one of those "unknowns" that sure, you would never guess that you would need virtualization for this reason, but it would have been all that was needed to make this a non-issue.

                                      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1782739-how-do-i-convert-server-2012-datacenter-r2-to-server-2012-datacenter

                                      This topic here doesn't seem so bad, unless he started running production on it and then realized that the system would begin to have activation issues.

                                      Simple solution, reinstall the proper OS to the hardware, but even better, virtualize the system, and then create VMs onto it.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        Yet another... didn't virtualize but it would have protected you. This is another one of those "unknowns" that sure, you would never guess that you would need virtualization for this reason, but it would have been all that was needed to make this a non-issue.

                                        https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1782739-how-do-i-convert-server-2012-datacenter-r2-to-server-2012-datacenter

                                        This topic here doesn't seem so bad, unless he started running production on it and then realized that the system would begin to have activation issues.

                                        Simple solution, reinstall the proper OS to the hardware, but even better, virtualize the system, and then create VMs onto it.

                                        It's only so bad... but it shouldn't have been bad at all. It was built locally and shipped out. So now it needs to be shipped back. Expensive and time consuming. All because he didn't virtualize the first time.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
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                                          Oh I don't disagree, but this was purely time expensive. I didn't see that he purchased the wrong license or anything.

                                          Just that he made a mistake with the setup of the system. Virtualizing it, he would still have to dump the VM and rebuild.

                                          Which is a quite a bit easier to do rather than having to reinstall from scratch on the hardware.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                            Oh I don't disagree, but this was purely time expensive. I didn't see that he purchased the wrong license or anything.

                                            No, he was simply burned by eschewing best practices. He skipped the best practice, and now it is costing time and money for no reason. That's the point.

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