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    What You Need to Know About XenServer

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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
      last edited by

      My new take on XS is to not touch XS. It's like Fight Club.

      The easy way for ISOs I found was...

      a) set up a new Linux Mint VM
      b) set up an anonymous share
      c) add ISOs
      d) done

      Windows works, but it;s hard to do anonymous shares, I've always found. You could create a user, which I did initially, but I've since moved to a small Mint instance and haven't looked back.

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        Francesco Provino @olivier
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        @olivier or via cloudinit, exactly, I just forgot to add it.

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        • olivierO
          olivier @Francesco Provino
          last edited by

          @Francesco-Provino said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

          @olivier or via cloudinit, exactly, I just forgot to add it.

          The thing is we already have CloudInit support, so it would be a shame to not using it 😛

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          • olivierO
            olivier @BRRABill
            last edited by

            @BRRABill said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

            My new take on XS is to not touch XS. It's like Fight Club.

            The easy way for ISOs I found was...

            a) set up a new Linux Mint VM
            b) set up an anonymous share
            c) add ISOs
            d) done

            Windows works, but it;s hard to do anonymous shares, I've always found. You could create a user, which I did initially, but I've since moved to a small Mint instance and haven't looked back.

            That's a way to do it also yes. In general, I've got always a physical machine (eg for backup) with enough space to do that. Doesn't require much bandwidth and power to simply share ISOs.

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22
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              Thoughts @scottalanmiller ?

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @olivier
                last edited by

                @olivier said

                That's a way to do it also yes. In general, I've got always a physical machine (eg for backup) with enough space to do that. Doesn't require much bandwidth and power to simply share ISOs.

                Yeah, just giving options. 🙂

                There are many. 🙂

                Anything that can share files would work. I just find sharing files anonymously through Windows maddening.

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                • olivierO
                  olivier @BRRABill
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                  @BRRABill said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                  @olivier said

                  That's a way to do it also yes. In general, I've got always a physical machine (eg for backup) with enough space to do that. Doesn't require much bandwidth and power to simply share ISOs.

                  Yeah, just giving options. 🙂

                  There are many. 🙂

                  Anything that can share files would work. I just find sharing files anonymously through Windows maddening.

                  I have no idea, last time I tried it was 10 years ago.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @olivier
                    last edited by

                    @olivier said

                    I have no idea, last time I tried it was 10 years ago.

                    It's probably why you moved on! 😉

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22
                      last edited by wirestyle22

                      If I shared my SSD on my desktop how would I handle the permissions for mounting in XS? I did attempt this but it failed. Granted I had to leave immediately after and didnt get the chance to troubleshoot it.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @wirestyle22
                        last edited by BRRABill

                        @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                        If I shared my SSD on my desktop how would I handle the permissions for mounting? I did attempt this but it failed. Granted I had to leave immediately after and didnt get the chance to troubleshoot it.

                        You could create a local account on your machine, give it access to the shared directory, and use that when you mount from XS.

                        That's what I did initially.

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                          @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                          If I shared my SSD on my desktop how would I handle the permissions for mounting? I did attempt this but it failed. Granted I had to leave immediately after and didnt get the chance to troubleshoot it.

                          You could create a local account on your machine, give it access to the shared directory, and use that when you mount from XS.

                          That's what I did initially.

                          I'll give this all a go when I get home and report back. Thanks everyone!

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22
                            last edited by wirestyle22

                            Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @wirestyle22
                              last edited by

                              @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                              Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                              I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @dafyre
                                last edited by

                                @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                Virtual?

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @wirestyle22
                                  last edited by coliver

                                  @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                  @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                  Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                  I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                  Virtual?

                                  Always! You should have a reason to be physical otherwise virtual.

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @wirestyle22
                                    last edited by

                                    @wirestyle22 Sorry, yeah.

                                    Unless you're running a lot of heavily used VMs, a dual or quadcore CPU would be fine. My box at home runs a quad core cpu and has 5 or 6 VMs on it with no issues.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @coliver
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                                      @coliver said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                      @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                      Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                      I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                      Virtual?

                                      Always! You should have a reason to be physical otherwise virtual.

                                      Just for my own knowledge, what would be a good reason to go physical? Just for a point of reference.

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @wirestyle22
                                        last edited by

                                        @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                        @coliver said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                        @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                        Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                        I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                        Virtual?

                                        Always! You should have a reason to be physical otherwise virtual.

                                        Just for my own knowledge, what would be a good reason to go physical? Just for a point of reference.

                                        Again... General concensus around here is the only thing you need Physical for is to install the hypervisor. Everything should be virtual these days. 🙂

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                                        • olivierO
                                          olivier @wirestyle22
                                          last edited by

                                          @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          @coliver said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                          I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                          Virtual?

                                          Always! You should have a reason to be physical otherwise virtual.

                                          Just for my own knowledge, what would be a good reason to go physical? Just for a point of reference.

                                          Maybe NAS/SAN storage, where massive I/Os and scalability is needed (note that you can connect a massive SAN/NAS to a pool so...).

                                          Also, even real-time operations could be done with an Hypervisor now (Xen is going at full speed in automotive industry, via XenRT and Xen ARM projects).

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @wirestyle22
                                            last edited by

                                            @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @coliver said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                            I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                            Virtual?

                                            Always! You should have a reason to be physical otherwise virtual.

                                            Just for my own knowledge, what would be a good reason to go physical? Just for a point of reference.

                                            If you have a reason to install physical you will know it. The reasons are so rare that you will most likely never run into one.

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