What happened to the website?
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@IRJ said in What happened to the website?:
I have two business Paypal accounts and I can send money to friends and family without any fees. The biggest advantage to a business account is the PayPal debit card. You get 1% rewards and you can use your PayPal balance without waiting for it to deposit in your bank account.
I think you can always send money a feeless way, it's recieving money into a business account that isn't free, unless the sender picks you as a friends and family, but even then, the business still might pay a fee on receipt.
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@Dashrender said in What happened to the website?:
That's because she's using a non business account - and because you want to use a CC you get to pay the CC fee.
If she had a business account, you would have zero fee, and she would have a fee no matter how you pay.
Uhm, someone ALWAYS pays those CC fees. If you process enough they'll give you a discounted fee rate, but you always pay those fees.
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Here is a way to think of it... the conference is $206, not $200 but there is a $6 discount for not paying with a CC.
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@aaronstuder said
My boss will never approve a expense to a person. How does he know I am not splitting the money with @Minion-Queen, and take taking a couple of paided days off lol
I am taking no sides, just saying I think this is what started it all.
Then he said to enroll a business account.
And the ball got rolling.
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@BRRABill said in What happened to the website?:
@aaronstuder said
My boss will never approve a expense to a person. How does he know I am not splitting the money with @Minion-Queen, and take taking a couple of paided days off lol
I am taking no sides, just saying I think this is what started it all.
Then he said to enroll a business account.
And the ball got rolling.
Yes, but he moved on from there and the post that we are all responding to is just two pictures with the fee difference highlighted.
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@scottalanmiller said
Yes, but he moved on from there and the post that we are all responding to is just two pictures with the fee difference highlighted.
The point being...
- his point is that it is free to open a business account, and that would make paying for the conference easier for him
- the counter point being it is NOT free for business accounts to accept payments
I do not know 100%, but I am pretty sure that business accounts DO incur a fee when receiving payment, regardless of the method used.
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@BRRABill said in What happened to the website?:
I do not know 100%, but I am pretty sure that business accounts DO incur a fee when receiving payment, regardless of the method used.
Yeah, always a fee for CCs no matter how when or where. Every store pays a fee. If there was a free way to do CCs we'd all use it for everything everywhere
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@scottalanmiller said
Yeah, always a fee for CCs no matter how when or where. Every store pays a fee. If there was a free way to do CCs we'd all use it for everything everywhere
And MasterCard would be out of business.But businesses get hit on paying from your bank account as well, I believe.
It's the same fee regardless of where the buyer funds from.
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2.9% + $0.30 per transaction
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@BRRABill said in What happened to the website?:
@scottalanmiller said
Yeah, always a fee for CCs no matter how when or where. Every store pays a fee. If there was a free way to do CCs we'd all use it for everything everywhere
And MasterCard would be out of business.But businesses get hit on paying from your bank account as well, I believe.
It's the same fee regardless of where the buyer funds from.
From PayPal, that is true - business pay on all incoming transactions with the possible exception of Send to Friend/Family, but I'm not really sure there.
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@scottalanmiller said in What happened to the website?:
A lot of gas stations charge a higher rate (basically a per gallon fee) for using a CC over cash.
Not sure if you are talking domestic or international. In the US, I don't believe that you can charge extra for paying by CC. They generally get around this by advertising the CC price and then offering a cash discount.
There are some exceptions, such as payments to government agencies, etc.
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@Danp said in What happened to the website?:
@scottalanmiller said in What happened to the website?:
A lot of gas stations charge a higher rate (basically a per gallon fee) for using a CC over cash.
Not sure if you are talking domestic or international. In the US, I don't believe that you can charge extra for paying by CC. They generally get around this by advertising the CC price and then offering a cash discount.
There are some exceptions, such as payments to government agencies, etc.
Yeah - it's the same difference though. i.e. you pay more when using a CC.
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@Danp said in What happened to the website?:
@scottalanmiller said in What happened to the website?:
A lot of gas stations charge a higher rate (basically a per gallon fee) for using a CC over cash.
Not sure if you are talking domestic or international. In the US, I don't believe that you can charge extra for paying by CC. They generally get around this by advertising the CC price and then offering a cash discount.
There are some exceptions, such as payments to government agencies, etc.
yes, if you can get around it by "just doing it" it's not really a limitation. And any limitation on not charging extra is purely a rule from the CCs so if the CCs don't have it any longer or don't enforce it, it simply does not exist.
And one can argue that "paying more for CC" or "having different prices" are just two wordings of the same action.
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@Dashrender said in What happened to the website?:
@Danp said in What happened to the website?:
@scottalanmiller said in What happened to the website?:
A lot of gas stations charge a higher rate (basically a per gallon fee) for using a CC over cash.
Not sure if you are talking domestic or international. In the US, I don't believe that you can charge extra for paying by CC. They generally get around this by advertising the CC price and then offering a cash discount.
There are some exceptions, such as payments to government agencies, etc.
Yeah - it's the same difference though. i.e. you pay more when using a CC.
It's not just the same difference, it is two descriptions of the same action. There is no case (I think) where both don't always apply.
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@scottalanmiller said in What happened to the website?:
@Dashrender said in What happened to the website?:
@Danp said in What happened to the website?:
@scottalanmiller said in What happened to the website?:
A lot of gas stations charge a higher rate (basically a per gallon fee) for using a CC over cash.
Not sure if you are talking domestic or international. In the US, I don't believe that you can charge extra for paying by CC. They generally get around this by advertising the CC price and then offering a cash discount.
There are some exceptions, such as payments to government agencies, etc.
Yeah - it's the same difference though. i.e. you pay more when using a CC.
It's not just the same difference, it is two descriptions of the same action. There is no case (I think) where both don't always apply.
Common sense has no connection with the law as it's accepted in the states anymore.
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@travisdh1 said in What happened to the website?:
@scottalanmiller said in What happened to the website?:
@Dashrender said in What happened to the website?:
@Danp said in What happened to the website?:
@scottalanmiller said in What happened to the website?:
A lot of gas stations charge a higher rate (basically a per gallon fee) for using a CC over cash.
Not sure if you are talking domestic or international. In the US, I don't believe that you can charge extra for paying by CC. They generally get around this by advertising the CC price and then offering a cash discount.
There are some exceptions, such as payments to government agencies, etc.
Yeah - it's the same difference though. i.e. you pay more when using a CC.
It's not just the same difference, it is two descriptions of the same action. There is no case (I think) where both don't always apply.
Common sense has no connection with the law as it's accepted in the states anymore.
Or ever. But in this case, if the question is asked "can you offer a different price" and the answer is yes. then the question is "did you do this" and the answer is yes. then there is no law issue.
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Once again, I will never get my company to make a payment to a person, not a company\event.
So now I have to decide if I want to pay for the trip out of my own pocket. Sharing the cost of a room with @travisdh1 makes it more affordable, that's for sure. At the same time, with the information available on the website, I am not sure what value I will get out of attending. The biggest things making me consider attending is that the location is very close for me, and fear of missing out. I guess what I am questioning what I am missing out on.
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@aaronstuder said in What happened to the website?:
Once again, I will never get my company to make a payment to a person, not a company\event.
You CAN explain to them that they are just confused as to what constitutes a person or a business. You are making it sound like they don't understand how businesses work in the US. A business is a form of person. Danielle could LLC herself as a business. There are many ways that it can go. The payment, in this case, IS to a business, not to a person. That they perceive it as a person is their own confusion, not the actual case. If they aren't clear how that works, no change that GS makes will necessarily make them happy.
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@aaronstuder just message Danielle and have her send a professional invoice. If they still won't pay with CC, I am sure Danielle would accept a check.
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@aaronstuder said in What happened to the website?:
At the same time, with the information available on the website, I am not sure what value I will get out of attending.
Well that is always a tough question. What type of training and technical sessions are you really seeking at this time? Lots of conferences have extremely little in the way of technical material (Dell World, just for example.) But getting a feel for what people are doing, what challenges are common, what new stuff is being used is valuable.
MC is trying to be both technically valuable as broadly as possible with tech sessions that are genuinely technical and broadly based as well as, of course, the real value in a conference of this nature being social... an opportunity to meet people in person, make connections, break down the "Internet barriers".... and it isn't just "social" like it sounds, but a chance to meet one on one for peer review, share ideas, explore projects, figure out which people are most helpful to you, etc.
It's hard to really explain how on the technical side as well, the biggest value is being social. It's not social like "hey, let's party", it's social like "hey, we are kind of like one big IT department and this is our event for bouncing the ideas around that makes us better equipped for the next year."
