SMB NAS
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#NeverQNAP. Can this be a thing? I'm making it a thing.
Did they take a nose dive and are no longer a good NAS manufacturer?
Were they ever a good NAS manufacturer? We had nothing but problems with them as a backup array. It would throw drive errors every week and support wanted us to update to the newest "support" firmware every time. It would just brick the box and we had to start from factory.
I should mention that this wasn't a single device. It was three different devices, each replacing the one previously from support. We finally gave up and just left it sitting there.
Like with workstations, I will only buy Dell for work because they are way easier to support, but I find it difficult to justify buying one for home. I have just witnessed way too many oddities. You could argue that someone could buy a Precision, or an XPS and be fine. But for those prices and no need for the additional business hardware like docking, etc, I could spend that on something like an Asus or MSI laptop with arguably better hardware for the same price.
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#NeverQNAP. Can this be a thing? I'm making it a thing.
Did they take a nose dive and are no longer a good NAS manufacturer?
Were they ever a good NAS manufacturer? We had nothing but problems with them as a backup array. It would throw drive errors every week and support wanted us to update to the newest "support" firmware every time. It would just brick the box and we had to start from factory.
I should mention that this wasn't a single device. It was three different devices, each replacing the one previously from support. We finally gave up and just left it sitting there.
Yeah I can imagine that sucks. I've saw people have the worst luck with the best manufacturer in its category, and people that have the best luck with the worst manufacturer. Could just have a run of bad luck, maybe the products all suck that entire year due to something internal to the company like cutting corners for more profit, etc. Hard to say what you're gonna get.
Maybe, but we weren't the only ones having issues with similar models at that time. Many people were mentioning the same thing. Could be a bad year sure...
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#NeverQNAP. Can this be a thing? I'm making it a thing.
Did they take a nose dive and are no longer a good NAS manufacturer?
Were they ever a good NAS manufacturer? We had nothing but problems with them as a backup array. It would throw drive errors every week and support wanted us to update to the newest "support" firmware every time. It would just brick the box and we had to start from factory.
I should mention that this wasn't a single device. It was three different devices, each replacing the one previously from support. We finally gave up and just left it sitting there.
Yeah I can imagine that sucks. I've saw people have the worst luck with the best manufacturer in its category, and people that have the best luck with the worst manufacturer. Could just have a run of bad luck, maybe the products all suck that entire year due to something internal to the company like cutting corners for more profit, etc. Hard to say what you're gonna get.
Maybe, but we weren't the only ones having issues with similar models at that time. Many people were mentioning the same thing. Could be a bad year sure...
Good to know though, I don't have any reason to actually buy a QNAP anymore, so I'll just steer clear and stick with what I feel comfortable with. Still haven't used anything with Thunderbolt like LaCie & G-Technology but that kind of throughput as a direct attached storage would be nice. I've always found those manufacturers to be like Apple... underpowered and overpriced.
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You may like to check out our fire- and waterproof Synology-based NAS too. Depending on your needs, they could either be a good fit or overkill. Link
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Synology is my favorite.
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Is there a reason you have to buy a commercial NAS? Why not make your own? The only thing I can think of is power consumption.
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Definitely don't go with any WD NAS. We have a Sentinel DX4000 here, and it is SSSLLLLOOOOOOOWWWWWWW.
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The sister company at the last place I worked swore by MyBook Worlds... sure it took all day to backup a few hundred gigs of data. But they lasted forever and were inexpensive. The tech wanted us to do the same thing but we had 3x the amount of data.
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@Brett-at-ioSafe said in SMB NAS:
You may like to check out our fire- and waterproof Synology-based NAS too. Depending on your needs, they could either be a good fit or overkill. Link
Good call, I've been looking at them.
Our rep is trying to get us into a LaCie, but I've used them before and they are nothing to write home about. It does have Thunderbolt 2 which would be nice, and it has 6TB (3TB usable) in RAID 1, for $550 so the price is right... Can't find any specs on the CPU or RAM so they're probably low. For about the same price I could buy a Synology with no Thunderbolt interface, a quadcore CPU, and 2GB of RAM with my choice of drives (probably WD Red Pro) for about $650. Arguably a better NAS all around...
But an ioSafe would be nice, because this is for a small group in the same building, and the NAS would be in the same building... So if the building burned down... Yes, I know I'm breaking the rules by having everything under one roof.
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@wirestyle22 said
Is there a reason you have to buy a commercial NAS? Why not make your own? The only thing I can think of is power consumption.
What is the NAS DU JOUR these days?
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Yes, I know I'm breaking the rules by having everything under one roof.
You could set it to back up to Glacier - there's an app for that! - or even sync the important stuff with Dropbox/Google Drive/OneDrive. This way, you'd have the benefits of offsite plus the RTO/RPO benefits of local). And, depending on how much data you have, it'd likely be a reasonably cheap combo.
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@BRRABill said
What is the NAS DU JOUR these days?
As usual, it might not make sense what I was asking.
I was asking in relation to the comment from @wirestyle22 to roll your own NAS.
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@BRRABill said
What is the NAS DU JOUR these days?
As usual, it might not make sense what I was asking.
I was asking in relation to the comment from @wirestyle22 to roll your own NAS.
With the Mini & the NAS I'm quoting (I did a LaCie 2big, then also a Synology which is arguably way better in many areas with WD Red Pro drives), coming out to about $2k when it's all said and done. I can already tell this is going to end up just being a "eh, we already have direct attached drives. Let's just get nothing instead."
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What's the push for a NAS?
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What's the push for a NAS?
Central location of Time Machine backups, able to have disks mirrored for better redundancy rather than just waiting for the onboard storage of the Mini failing and taking 50% of all the backups with it. I could have some janky work around like having a Mini with the 1TB onboard, and have a 1TB external and try to match them as close as possible with specs...
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What's the push for a NAS?
Central location of Time Machine backups, able to have disks mirrored. I could have some janky work around like having a Mini with the 1TB onboard, and have a 1TB external and try to match them as close as possible with specs...
What protocol does Time Machine use? NFS?
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What's the push for a NAS?
Central location of Time Machine backups, able to have disks mirrored. I could have some janky work around like having a Mini with the 1TB onboard, and have a 1TB external and try to match them as close as possible with specs...
What protocol does Time Machine use? NFS?
AFP I think but I'll have to double check.
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What's the push for a NAS?
Central location of Time Machine backups, able to have disks mirrored. I could have some janky work around like having a Mini with the 1TB onboard, and have a 1TB external and try to match them as close as possible with specs...
What protocol does Time Machine use? NFS?
Looks like Wiki does say AFP.
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#NeverQNAP. Can this be a thing? I'm making it a thing.
I haven't used QNAP in a while, but I still see them get great ratings. I just stopped using them because they had worse performance on paper and cost more than, say, Synology.
Great ratings from consumers and people who don't enact their SLA. The two week SLA means that no one in a serious business is using them in a serious role... so you have to understand the context of the ratings. Ratings don't tell you very much if you don't know if the ratings are comparative or not.
