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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      Agreed, one is mine, one is my companies. I expect to keep everything in the one that is mine when I leave that company, but expect to leave everything behind in the company one... they should not be merged at all.

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      • StrongBadS
        StrongBad @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said:

        @StrongBad said:

        I have a feeling that the two are actually the same thing.

        But in no way is [email protected] the same thing as [email protected]

        Completely separate accounts, different recovery information etc.

        MS Should have no way to know, and therefor keep them separate.

        Two different accounts. But I mean that I think that they are both Azure AD. Just two Azure AD accounts.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          Now if somehow MS was able to determine that I am in fact the same person because of username similarities, doesn't mean they should.

          Maybe I just want a free MS email account for personal use.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @StrongBad
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            @StrongBad said:

            @DustinB3403 said:

            @StrongBad said:

            I have a feeling that the two are actually the same thing.

            But in no way is [email protected] the same thing as [email protected]

            Completely separate accounts, different recovery information etc.

            MS Should have no way to know, and therefor keep them separate.

            Two different accounts. But I mean that I think that they are both Azure AD. Just two Azure AD accounts.

            I guess I should clarify. I only initially set it up with my Office 365 and AzureAD account. I didn't add the normal user account until I couldn't install an app from the store.

            It's the enterprise version of Windows 10, does that affect how the store works?

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @StrongBad
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              @StrongBad said:

              Two different accounts. But I mean that I think that they are both Azure AD. Just two Azure AD accounts.

              maybe - and I'm fine with that.

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates
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                So you can't use your work account to get apps from the Windows Store?

                I'm signed in with my work account as you can see from the picture. But it's making me sign in with a Microsoft Account to get any apps?

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
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                  While it might seem odd that you can't get apps with your business account, it's not entirely surprising either. Apps that you could get would need to be published to you by the site administrator, because that's who owns them, who would be paying for them.

                  You don't want end users having to attach a CC to their business account, either their own or the companies. If they put their own in, now it's an argument as to who owns that software, if they put the company CC in, who manages that?

                  I know there is a way to publish apps via a private store to Win10 machines within your organization, but I couldn't tell you how to do it.

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said:

                    While it might seem odd that you can't get apps with your business account, it's not entirely surprising either. Apps that you could get would need to be published to you by the site administrator, because that's who owns them, who would be paying for them.

                    You don't want end users having to attach a CC to their business account, either their own or the companies. If they put their own in, now it's an argument as to who owns that software, if they put the company CC in, who manages that?

                    I know there is a way to publish apps via a private store to Win10 machines within your organization, but I couldn't tell you how to do it.

                    That's a good point. I didn't think of it that way.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      While it might seem odd that you can't get apps with your business account, it's not entirely surprising either. Apps that you could get would need to be published to you by the site administrator, because that's who owns them, who would be paying for them.

                      Problem is, it means that for basic usage you need to merge the accounts. And thus the problems begin.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                        @johnhooks said:

                        That's a good point. I didn't think of it that way.

                        Except now you have to merge accounts even for free things.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @johnhooks said:

                          That's a good point. I didn't think of it that way.

                          Except now you have to merge accounts even for free things.

                          I just added my login to the store. Does that merge the two together?

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            While it might seem odd that you can't get apps with your business account, it's not entirely surprising either. Apps that you could get would need to be published to you by the site administrator, because that's who owns them, who would be paying for them.

                            Problem is, it means that for basic usage you need to merge the accounts. And thus the problems begin.

                            Not sure what you mean by merge? I have two or more MS accounts on my laptop at home - they aren't merged, they are all simply active. Sure, when I want to buy/download something I have to make sure I pick the correct account - but we've been doing that on mobile devices for years.

                            That said, it's still a cluster.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @stacksofplates
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                              @johnhooks said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @johnhooks said:

                              That's a good point. I didn't think of it that way.

                              Except now you have to merge accounts even for free things.

                              I just added my login to the store. Does that merge the two together?

                              There is merging of accounts as I can see.. the device simply has two account on it.. and uses the permissions of the account that allowed the action when account access is needed.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                @johnhooks said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @johnhooks said:

                                That's a good point. I didn't think of it that way.

                                Except now you have to merge accounts even for free things.

                                I just added my login to the store. Does that merge the two together?

                                There is merging of accounts as I can see.. the device simply has two account on it.. and uses the permissions of the account that allowed the action when account access is needed.

                                Well, that's kind of merged. The end user cannot clearly see which is which.

                                And to be absolutely clear.... Microsoft cannot see which is which either. It was because of Microsoft confusing and merging these accounts that I lost both my O365 AND my personal accounts at the same time. MS on the back end merged them together and broke them both. That's why for six months I've had no working MS accounts and still don't, MS can't get them fixed.

                                This is VERY merged and very not separate.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  Not sure what you mean by merge? I have two or more MS accounts on my laptop at home - they aren't merged, they are all simply active.

                                  For most people, they don't get mixed together TOO much. But MS can't keep track of them with confidence, and if they can't, any appearance of tracking them yourself is likely nothing more than that.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Sure, when I want to buy/download something I have to make sure I pick the correct account - but we've been doing that on mobile devices for years.

                                    Only you people in the WIndows phone world. I've never done that. Not sure when it would even come up.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      Sure, when I want to buy/download something I have to make sure I pick the correct account - but we've been doing that on mobile devices for years.

                                      Only you people in the WIndows phone world. I've never done that. Not sure when it would even come up.

                                      LOL - I knew you would pick on that - but no, seriously - on my Android phone I would switch between different amazon accounts back in the day because they didn't allow shared content between account on Amazon services.

                                      FYI - Google and Amazon services don't work well if at all on Phones phone (though Amazon does have an Amazon store app for buying stuff on Windows phone, but not for apps).

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