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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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      @wirestyle22 said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      Fail2Ban stops brute force attacks by locking out aggressive IP addresses that make many attempts to log into your system. Without it, an aggressive IP could attack you with one bad password after another, as fast as it could, until it found one that worked (like happened to Alibabab today.) Fail2ban makes brute forces nearly impossible because it would make millions of attempts take a lifetime, rather than a day.

      Sounds like it would also mitigate denial of service attacks as well or just logins?

      It actually enables DoS attacks, to some degree.

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @wirestyle22 said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        Fail2Ban stops brute force attacks by locking out aggressive IP addresses that make many attempts to log into your system. Without it, an aggressive IP could attack you with one bad password after another, as fast as it could, until it found one that worked (like happened to Alibabab today.) Fail2ban makes brute forces nearly impossible because it would make millions of attempts take a lifetime, rather than a day.

        Sounds like it would also mitigate denial of service attacks as well or just logins?

        It actually enables DoS attacks, to some degree.

        Can you explain in more detail? Is this because it creates overhead?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @wirestyle22 said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Fail2Ban stops brute force attacks by locking out aggressive IP addresses that make many attempts to log into your system. Without it, an aggressive IP could attack you with one bad password after another, as fast as it could, until it found one that worked (like happened to Alibabab today.) Fail2ban makes brute forces nearly impossible because it would make millions of attempts take a lifetime, rather than a day.

          Sounds like it would also mitigate denial of service attacks as well or just logins?

          It actually enables DoS attacks, to some degree.

          Can you explain in more detail? Is this because it creates overhead?

          Creates overhead and causes a system to deny access from an IP address. What to block a system from being able to server requests... just hit it from lots of IP addresses and get it to start blocking them. Instant denial of service.

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @wirestyle22
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            @wirestyle22 said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            Fail2Ban stops brute force attacks by locking out aggressive IP addresses that make many attempts to log into your system. Without it, an aggressive IP could attack you with one bad password after another, as fast as it could, until it found one that worked (like happened to Alibabab today.) Fail2ban makes brute forces nearly impossible because it would make millions of attempts take a lifetime, rather than a day.

            Sounds like it would also mitigate denial of service attacks as well or just logins?

            For DoS attacks it can help, but for most of those it's only going to be a speed bump before figuring out another way to bombard you with traffic.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @travisdh1
              last edited by JaredBusch

              @travisdh1 said:

              fail2ban - Watches for failed login attempts, if the same account tries to login to many times the account gets locked out of the system for a set period of time. On CentOS 6 the default is 5 failed attempts over 5 minutes gets locked out for 30 minutes. Makes brute forcing any decent password even harder. Once fail2ban is installed and configured for each service to monitor it's good to go.

              This is not correct. fail2ban does not lock out anything. By using the term lock out, you are implying it has some access to user account information, which it does not.

              What it does is add rules to the firewall to cause connections from the source IP to be dropped.

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @wirestyle22 said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @wirestyle22 said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                Fail2Ban stops brute force attacks by locking out aggressive IP addresses that make many attempts to log into your system. Without it, an aggressive IP could attack you with one bad password after another, as fast as it could, until it found one that worked (like happened to Alibabab today.) Fail2ban makes brute forces nearly impossible because it would make millions of attempts take a lifetime, rather than a day.

                Sounds like it would also mitigate denial of service attacks as well or just logins?

                It actually enables DoS attacks, to some degree.

                Can you explain in more detail? Is this because it creates overhead?

                Creates overhead and causes a system to deny access from an IP address. What to block a system from being able to server requests... just hit it from lots of IP addresses and get it to start blocking them. Instant denial of service.

                Ah, that makes sense. Thanks.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said:

                  @travisdh1 said:

                  fail2ban - Watches for failed login attempts, if the same account tries to login to many times the account gets locked out of the system for a set period of time. On CentOS 6 the default is 5 failed attempts over 5 minutes gets locked out for 30 minutes. Makes brute forcing any decent password even harder. Once fail2ban is installed and configured for each service to monitor it's good to go.

                  This is not correct. fail2ban does not lock out anything. By using the term lock out, you are implying it has some access to user account information, which it does not.

                  What it does is add rules to the firewall to cause connections form the source IP to be dropped.

                  Ah yes, quite right.

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                  • StrongBadS
                    StrongBad
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                    When you can, within reason, you want to have SELinux or AppArmor turned on. They are there for a reason, they provide rather a significant amount of additional protection.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates
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                      SELinux writes logs to the /var/log/audit/audit.log file, if auditd isn't running then its the /var/log/messages. If you check the logs, it pretty much tells you what you need to do to allow your service.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @stacksofplates
                        last edited by

                        Do you guys have any great resources for CentOS? If not, do you have any book recommendations? I need a lot of reading material.

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                        • Reid CooperR
                          Reid Cooper @wirestyle22
                          last edited by

                          @wirestyle22 said:

                          Do you guys have any great resources for CentOS? If not, do you have any book recommendations? I need a lot of reading material.

                          Have you been following SAM's new Linux guide? That's CentOS.

                          http://mangolassi.it/topic/7825/sam-learning-linux-system-administration

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Reid Cooper
                            last edited by

                            @Reid-Cooper said:

                            @wirestyle22 said:

                            Do you guys have any great resources for CentOS? If not, do you have any book recommendations? I need a lot of reading material.

                            Have you been following SAM's new Linux guide? That's CentOS.

                            http://mangolassi.it/topic/7825/sam-learning-linux-system-administration

                            I hear that it comes highly recommended.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Reid-Cooper said:

                              @wirestyle22 said:

                              Do you guys have any great resources for CentOS? If not, do you have any book recommendations? I need a lot of reading material.

                              Have you been following SAM's new Linux guide? That's CentOS.

                              http://mangolassi.it/topic/7825/sam-learning-linux-system-administration

                              I hear that it comes highly recommended.

                              There may be a bit of bias there.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by wirestyle22

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Reid-Cooper said:

                                @wirestyle22 said:

                                Do you guys have any great resources for CentOS? If not, do you have any book recommendations? I need a lot of reading material.

                                Have you been following SAM's new Linux guide? That's CentOS.

                                http://mangolassi.it/topic/7825/sam-learning-linux-system-administration

                                I hear that it comes highly recommended.

                                I will certainly check it out. I'm building my Linux Test Environment Server. I'm going to use it for a myriad of things.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  I am trying hard to keep several new articles coming each week.

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    I am trying hard to keep several new articles coming each week.

                                    I appreciate that greatly. I'll be updating my progress and I'm sure I'll be asking a lot of questions to break everything down and provide hypotheticals.

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates
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                                      If you're running Fedora, there is an SELinux Troubleshooter tool that comes in really handy. I just moved my KVM images to a different folder. I had to change the context of the folder to allow KVM to read the images. As soon as the error happened, I got a notification from the troubleshooter. Highlighted is the commands you need to allow the action.

                                      0_1455063744342_selinux.png

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                                      • hobbit666H
                                        hobbit666
                                        last edited by

                                        What about users?
                                        At the moment I don't create a new user I just use root with a strong password.

                                        Can I "link" Linux with out AD and user our usernames and passwords that way (but limit how i.e. just the IT Dept?)? Or should I create new local users on the Linux machines?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @hobbit666
                                          last edited by

                                          @hobbit666 said:

                                          What about users?
                                          At the moment I don't create a new user I just use root with a strong password.

                                          Can I "link" Linux with out AD and user our usernames and passwords that way (but limit how i.e. just the IT Dept?)? Or should I create new local users on the Linux machines?

                                          Really depends on how you plan to use the system.

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                                          • hobbit666H
                                            hobbit666 @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @hobbit666 said:

                                            What about users?
                                            At the moment I don't create a new user I just use root with a strong password.

                                            Can I "link" Linux with out AD and user our usernames and passwords that way (but limit how i.e. just the IT Dept?)? Or should I create new local users on the Linux machines?

                                            Really depends on how you plan to use the system.

                                            At the moment its one VM for FOG and another VM for SnipeIT

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