Android tablet
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
As a family, he didn't want to have to purchase the application 5 different times (husband, wife, child1, child2, child 3).
Does normal Android make you do that? With Amazon Fire, buy once and the whole family gets it.
Right, Google Play accounts are a 1:1 relationship... I really wish they would change that.
Time to move away from Google Play
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller Only if they share the same account.
I'm talking about 5 different devices.
I've got five devices (literally, exactly five) and four accounts across them. no issuses.
So how does that work? are the other 4 accounts child accounts of yours? and any application you buy - they have access to?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
You don't, and a few rare businesses will be this way. But the thing that makes them "tablets" is that they are single user. Otherwise they are just a keyboardless laptop. The world sees tablets as single user devices. People think of them as "belonging" to someone. It's how the market is. If you want something different you should consider getting a full Windows or Linux laptop with a removable keyboard.
If that were true (and I'm not saying you are wrong) why would they add multi-user ability after Kit-Kat?
For people demanding it. Just because something isn't good or normal doesn't mean it wouldn't be a selling point.
This is going to sound snarky, but just because your family can afford an iPad for every member of the household doesn't mean most can. Many families I know only have one, and the whole family shares it. If they had the ability to log into their own profile, they would love that.
Now, with the new Amazon Fire's being, what $70? - OK we're much closer to everyone having one. But that's on the droid side of the fence, not the Apple one.
We moved to Amazon Fire because it was more affordable. And they are half the price you are picturing.
I don't know any families sharing tablets, not even those much poorer than us and those with many more kids. I'm sure that people do, but I literally know no one doing that. Has nothing to do with what my household does.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller Only if they share the same account.
I'm talking about 5 different devices.
I've got five devices (literally, exactly five) and four accounts across them. no issuses.
So how does that work? are the other 4 accounts child accounts of yours? and any application you buy - they have access to?
Two adults, two kids.
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@coliver said:
Right, Google Play accounts are a 1:1 relationship... I really wish they would change that.
Are they? I know they just allowed Google Play Music to have family sharing. I thought I read it was for apps as well.
Definitely for music though.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
You don't, and a few rare businesses will be this way. But the thing that makes them "tablets" is that they are single user. Otherwise they are just a keyboardless laptop. The world sees tablets as single user devices. People think of them as "belonging" to someone. It's how the market is. If you want something different you should consider getting a full Windows or Linux laptop with a removable keyboard.
If that were true (and I'm not saying you are wrong) why would they add multi-user ability after Kit-Kat?
For people demanding it. Just because something isn't good or normal doesn't mean it wouldn't be a selling point.
This is going to sound snarky, but just because your family can afford an iPad for every member of the household doesn't mean most can. Many families I know only have one, and the whole family shares it. If they had the ability to log into their own profile, they would love that.
Now, with the new Amazon Fire's being, what $70? - OK we're much closer to everyone having one. But that's on the droid side of the fence, not the Apple one.
We moved to Amazon Fire because it was more affordable. And they are half the price you are picturing.
I don't know any families sharing tablets, not even those much poorer than us and those with many more kids. I'm sure that people do, but I literally know no one doing that. Has nothing to do with what my household does.
I know lots of families with only one Ipad to go around for the whole family (no other laptops/desktops either).
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@BRRABill said:
@coliver said:
Right, Google Play accounts are a 1:1 relationship... I really wish they would change that.
Are they? I know they just allowed Google Play Music to have family sharing. I thought I read it was for apps as well.
Definitely for music though.
For music they have family sharing. I don't remember it being for apps. I'm sure that is on the way though since all of their major competitors are doing it.
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@BRRABill said:
@coliver said:
Right, Google Play accounts are a 1:1 relationship... I really wish they would change that.
Are they? I know they just allowed Google Play Music to have family sharing. I thought I read it was for apps as well.
Definitely for music though.
Yeah, they've been babbling about that for a year+
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller Only if they share the same account.
I'm talking about 5 different devices.
I've got five devices (literally, exactly five) and four accounts across them. no issuses.
So how does that work? are the other 4 accounts child accounts of yours? and any application you buy - they have access to?
Two adults, two kids.
How did you configure it?
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@coliver said:
@BRRABill said:
@coliver said:
Right, Google Play accounts are a 1:1 relationship... I really wish they would change that.
Are they? I know they just allowed Google Play Music to have family sharing. I thought I read it was for apps as well.
Definitely for music though.
For music they have family sharing. I don't remember it being for apps. I'm sure that is on the way though since all of their major competitors are doing it.
Fire Store does it for apps. Buy Minecraft PE, and it shows up on all four tablets and both Fire TVs.
Our yeah, six devices, not five.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller Only if they share the same account.
I'm talking about 5 different devices.
I've got five devices (literally, exactly five) and four accounts across them. no issuses.
So how does that work? are the other 4 accounts child accounts of yours? and any application you buy - they have access to?
Two adults, two kids.
How did you configure it?
The kids are done right on the app. Dominica set up the second adult account (you only get two of those) so not sure.
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The Apple ecosystem has a family account setup and when I buy something it is available on all devices.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201806360
Nice!
And about time!
Now where the heck is Google on this? And with MS trying to push their store more, they need to make sure they do the same.
oh.. and of course.. what about Apple?
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Amazon is getting some things right with their tablets. SOme things very wrong, don't get me wrong. But the app sharing is great.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
You don't, and a few rare businesses will be this way. But the thing that makes them "tablets" is that they are single user. Otherwise they are just a keyboardless laptop. The world sees tablets as single user devices. People think of them as "belonging" to someone. It's how the market is. If you want something different you should consider getting a full Windows or Linux laptop with a removable keyboard.
If that were true (and I'm not saying you are wrong) why would they add multi-user ability after Kit-Kat?
For people demanding it. Just because something isn't good or normal doesn't mean it wouldn't be a selling point.
I set it up at the shop because we needed some cheap disposable (we got some no name ones) android tablets that we could access the intranet with to sign for deliveries and do Lock Out Tag Out/maintenance records. Having a shop account and an admin account was nice so that people don't play and install every game possible on it. It's definitely not useful for everyone, but in this case it helped.
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@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
You don't, and a few rare businesses will be this way. But the thing that makes them "tablets" is that they are single user. Otherwise they are just a keyboardless laptop. The world sees tablets as single user devices. People think of them as "belonging" to someone. It's how the market is. If you want something different you should consider getting a full Windows or Linux laptop with a removable keyboard.
If that were true (and I'm not saying you are wrong) why would they add multi-user ability after Kit-Kat?
For people demanding it. Just because something isn't good or normal doesn't mean it wouldn't be a selling point.
I set it up at the shop because we needed something cheap disposable (we got some no name ones) android tablets that we could access the intranet with to sign for deliveries and do Lock Out Tag Out/maintenance records. Having a shop account and an admin account was nice so that people don't play and install every game possible on it. It's definitely not useful for everyone, but in this case it helped.
Exactly - the general idea that these are single user devices just seems short sited to me. Call it whatever you want, anything short of a phone is rarely single user (OK a toothbrush is generally single user - I know all of mine are
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Has Amazon resolve their issue of being behind on updating apps?
This used to be a really big problem. I used to see apps that were 6+ months behind the Google Play store version.
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@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
You don't, and a few rare businesses will be this way. But the thing that makes them "tablets" is that they are single user. Otherwise they are just a keyboardless laptop. The world sees tablets as single user devices. People think of them as "belonging" to someone. It's how the market is. If you want something different you should consider getting a full Windows or Linux laptop with a removable keyboard.
If that were true (and I'm not saying you are wrong) why would they add multi-user ability after Kit-Kat?
For people demanding it. Just because something isn't good or normal doesn't mean it wouldn't be a selling point.
I set it up at the shop because we needed something cheap disposable (we got some no name ones) android tablets that we could access the intranet with to sign for deliveries and do Lock Out Tag Out/maintenance records. Having a shop account and an admin account was nice so that people don't play and install every game possible on it. It's definitely not useful for everyone, but in this case it helped.
Exactly - the general idea that these are single user devices just seems short sited to me. Call it whatever you want, anything short of a phone is rarely single user (OK a toothbrush is generally single user - I know all of mine are
)I don't buy that. They are almost always single user. Not always, but neither are phones. Lots of families share phones in the same way. You have to be way, way richer to not share phones than you do to not share tablets. Phones are the big money, tablets are practically free by comparison.
So if the need exists, it would exist in phones too. And I see no one clamouring for that.
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Of people who DO share devices, how many care about accounts? Remember that shared devices always cause a bit of exposure as the admin has to be one of those people (or all of them.) That's why no one had accounts at home until Windows XP and even then, who used them? how many people, of the people that we know that share devices including desktops, use different user accounts for different family members? That's why tablets don't have them.
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@scottalanmiller said:
I don't buy that. They are almost always single user. Not always, but neither are phones. Lots of families share phones in the same way. You have to be way, way richer to not share phones than you do to not share tablets. Phones are the big money, tablets are practically free by comparison.
So if the need exists, it would exist in phones too. And I see no one clamouring for that.
I don't know a single person who shares a phone, but I know of at least 10 families that only have one iPad and they all share it. And in all 10 of those families, there is no sharing of phones. Sure they don't all have iPhones, they have cheap Android phones, but so what?
