Android tablet
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Amazon is getting some things right with their tablets. SOme things very wrong, don't get me wrong. But the app sharing is great.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
You don't, and a few rare businesses will be this way. But the thing that makes them "tablets" is that they are single user. Otherwise they are just a keyboardless laptop. The world sees tablets as single user devices. People think of them as "belonging" to someone. It's how the market is. If you want something different you should consider getting a full Windows or Linux laptop with a removable keyboard.
If that were true (and I'm not saying you are wrong) why would they add multi-user ability after Kit-Kat?
For people demanding it. Just because something isn't good or normal doesn't mean it wouldn't be a selling point.
I set it up at the shop because we needed some cheap disposable (we got some no name ones) android tablets that we could access the intranet with to sign for deliveries and do Lock Out Tag Out/maintenance records. Having a shop account and an admin account was nice so that people don't play and install every game possible on it. It's definitely not useful for everyone, but in this case it helped.
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@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
You don't, and a few rare businesses will be this way. But the thing that makes them "tablets" is that they are single user. Otherwise they are just a keyboardless laptop. The world sees tablets as single user devices. People think of them as "belonging" to someone. It's how the market is. If you want something different you should consider getting a full Windows or Linux laptop with a removable keyboard.
If that were true (and I'm not saying you are wrong) why would they add multi-user ability after Kit-Kat?
For people demanding it. Just because something isn't good or normal doesn't mean it wouldn't be a selling point.
I set it up at the shop because we needed something cheap disposable (we got some no name ones) android tablets that we could access the intranet with to sign for deliveries and do Lock Out Tag Out/maintenance records. Having a shop account and an admin account was nice so that people don't play and install every game possible on it. It's definitely not useful for everyone, but in this case it helped.
Exactly - the general idea that these are single user devices just seems short sited to me. Call it whatever you want, anything short of a phone is rarely single user (OK a toothbrush is generally single user - I know all of mine are
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Has Amazon resolve their issue of being behind on updating apps?
This used to be a really big problem. I used to see apps that were 6+ months behind the Google Play store version.
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@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
You don't, and a few rare businesses will be this way. But the thing that makes them "tablets" is that they are single user. Otherwise they are just a keyboardless laptop. The world sees tablets as single user devices. People think of them as "belonging" to someone. It's how the market is. If you want something different you should consider getting a full Windows or Linux laptop with a removable keyboard.
If that were true (and I'm not saying you are wrong) why would they add multi-user ability after Kit-Kat?
For people demanding it. Just because something isn't good or normal doesn't mean it wouldn't be a selling point.
I set it up at the shop because we needed something cheap disposable (we got some no name ones) android tablets that we could access the intranet with to sign for deliveries and do Lock Out Tag Out/maintenance records. Having a shop account and an admin account was nice so that people don't play and install every game possible on it. It's definitely not useful for everyone, but in this case it helped.
Exactly - the general idea that these are single user devices just seems short sited to me. Call it whatever you want, anything short of a phone is rarely single user (OK a toothbrush is generally single user - I know all of mine are
)I don't buy that. They are almost always single user. Not always, but neither are phones. Lots of families share phones in the same way. You have to be way, way richer to not share phones than you do to not share tablets. Phones are the big money, tablets are practically free by comparison.
So if the need exists, it would exist in phones too. And I see no one clamouring for that.
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Of people who DO share devices, how many care about accounts? Remember that shared devices always cause a bit of exposure as the admin has to be one of those people (or all of them.) That's why no one had accounts at home until Windows XP and even then, who used them? how many people, of the people that we know that share devices including desktops, use different user accounts for different family members? That's why tablets don't have them.
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@scottalanmiller said:
I don't buy that. They are almost always single user. Not always, but neither are phones. Lots of families share phones in the same way. You have to be way, way richer to not share phones than you do to not share tablets. Phones are the big money, tablets are practically free by comparison.
So if the need exists, it would exist in phones too. And I see no one clamouring for that.
I don't know a single person who shares a phone, but I know of at least 10 families that only have one iPad and they all share it. And in all 10 of those families, there is no sharing of phones. Sure they don't all have iPhones, they have cheap Android phones, but so what?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I don't buy that. They are almost always single user. Not always, but neither are phones. Lots of families share phones in the same way. You have to be way, way richer to not share phones than you do to not share tablets. Phones are the big money, tablets are practically free by comparison.
So if the need exists, it would exist in phones too. And I see no one clamouring for that.
I don't know a single person who shares a phone, but I know of at least 10 families that only have one iPad and they all share it. And in all 10 of those families, there is no sharing of phones. Sure they don't all have iPhones, they have cheap Android phones, but so what?
Well, to quote you, we can't all be that rich
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I don't buy that. They are almost always single user. Not always, but neither are phones. Lots of families share phones in the same way. You have to be way, way richer to not share phones than you do to not share tablets. Phones are the big money, tablets are practically free by comparison.
So if the need exists, it would exist in phones too. And I see no one clamouring for that.
I don't know a single person who shares a phone, but I know of at least 10 families that only have one iPad and they all share it. And in all 10 of those families, there is no sharing of phones. Sure they don't all have iPhones, they have cheap Android phones, but so what?
Well, to quote you, we can't all be that rich
Are you saying you know of families who share cell phones? (and I'm assuming all other technology in the house)
I only said 10 families, because I can list 10 who don't share cell phones, but do share iPads/Android tablets.
But not a single person/family I know shares cell phones between family members. -
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I don't buy that. They are almost always single user. Not always, but neither are phones. Lots of families share phones in the same way. You have to be way, way richer to not share phones than you do to not share tablets. Phones are the big money, tablets are practically free by comparison.
So if the need exists, it would exist in phones too. And I see no one clamouring for that.
I don't know a single person who shares a phone, but I know of at least 10 families that only have one iPad and they all share it. And in all 10 of those families, there is no sharing of phones. Sure they don't all have iPhones, they have cheap Android phones, but so what?
Well, to quote you, we can't all be that rich
Are you saying you know of families who share cell phones? (and I'm assuming all other technology in the house)
I only said 10 families, because I can list 10 who don't share cell phones, but do share iPads/Android tablets.
But not a single person/family I know shares cell phones between family members.I've known people to share phones, have not known them to share tablets. As phones are more necessity and safety, I see poorer people trying to use them. Tablets, being purely a luxury items, are less likely to be shared because, I would assume, people with that kind of disposable income tend to get more than one and those without tend to get zero.
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I know of a few families (with teens) that have one cell phone for the whole family. They do not have a home phone either. A monthly contract on multiple phones is really expensive. So one phone and when you get a text you have to ask who you are talking to. I have like 4 families that I know of that do this.
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@Minion-Queen said:
I know of a few families (with teens) that have one cell phone for the whole family. They do not have a home phone either. A monthly contract on multiple phones is really expensive. So one phone and when you get a text you have to ask who you are talking to. I have like 4 families that I know of that do this.
OK so you know 4 that share phones, how many do you know that share tablets?
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@Dashrender said:
@Minion-Queen said:
I know of a few families (with teens) that have one cell phone for the whole family. They do not have a home phone either. A monthly contract on multiple phones is really expensive. So one phone and when you get a text you have to ask who you are talking to. I have like 4 families that I know of that do this.
OK so you know 4 that share phones, how many do you know that share tablets?
AND care about user accounts.
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I'm starting to think I should tell my kids they are even luckier than I had previously told them they are!
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@Dashrender said:
@Minion-Queen said:
I know of a few families (with teens) that have one cell phone for the whole family. They do not have a home phone either. A monthly contract on multiple phones is really expensive. So one phone and when you get a text you have to ask who you are talking to. I have like 4 families that I know of that do this.
OK so you know 4 that share phones, how many do you know that share tablets?
Oh man at least 5 or 6 (I have set them all up so). One user account per family thankfully
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@Minion-Queen said:
@Dashrender said:
@Minion-Queen said:
I know of a few families (with teens) that have one cell phone for the whole family. They do not have a home phone either. A monthly contract on multiple phones is really expensive. So one phone and when you get a text you have to ask who you are talking to. I have like 4 families that I know of that do this.
OK so you know 4 that share phones, how many do you know that share tablets?
Oh man at least 5 or 6 (I have set them all up so). One user account per family thankfully
Do those people all share a single email account? a single pictures repository, etc?
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OK I'm frustrated!!!
I have setup a second user account on the device (the doc brought in the tab over lunch), but I can't figure out how to choose what user to log in as on the lock screen.
I can only do it from the settings screen - which makes it pointless.
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HOLY SHIT!
well I found how to do it.
You have to swipe in from the top while on the lock screen, which then shows you a tiny picture of the currently logged on user. press that picture, then choose the new profile.
The crappy thing - I did swipe in from all 4 edges earlier... and I guess I just didn't wait long enough between edges.. sigh!
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Sorry I just saw this now, I could have chimed in.
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@Dashrender said:
@Minion-Queen said:
@Dashrender said:
@Minion-Queen said:
I know of a few families (with teens) that have one cell phone for the whole family. They do not have a home phone either. A monthly contract on multiple phones is really expensive. So one phone and when you get a text you have to ask who you are talking to. I have like 4 families that I know of that do this.
OK so you know 4 that share phones, how many do you know that share tablets?
Oh man at least 5 or 6 (I have set them all up so). One user account per family thankfully
Do those people all share a single email account? a single pictures repository, etc?
Of course. Remember, in the non-tech savvy world, people actually don't use email much any more. The US, like Italy, has actually moved dramatically backwards in technology. Today teenagers actually think it is "cool" to be luddites. Using texting is far more popular and texting is by device, not account, so sharing of accounts is just assumed once you share devices.
I know lots of people with shared email accounts for the family. That's common, sadly. And shared Facebook, less common.
Even our family with 2+ tablets per person, 1+ laptops per person, a domain for each family member, etc. shares things like picture collections.
