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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @Dashrender said:

      The point wasn't for you to use Toronto, but to consider other options.

      I realize that, hence my use of the "smiley"

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
        last edited by

        @FATeknollogee said:

        I'm in the same area as @wrx7m

        2 questions:

        1. What if you want the local co-lo as a "hot" site
        2. For those that have co-lo in other geographical area's, do you own the gear or lease from the colo provider

        Check out Colocation America, I've not used them but they have a lot of offerings.

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        • RojoLocoR
          RojoLoco
          last edited by

          If they have a datacenter in the location you choose, QTS has been amazing for us. Highly recommended, top quality company, great facilities and service.

          http://www.qtsdatacenters.com/data-centers

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          • J
            Jason Banned @FATeknollogee
            last edited by Jason

            @FATeknollogee said:

            1. For those that have co-lo in other geographical area's, do you own the gear or lease from the colo provider

            We own everything. I think the Palo Alto's might have been a Lease to own program though (through palo alto, not the Colo).

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            • art_of_shredA
              art_of_shred Banned @Jason
              last edited by

              @FATeknollogee said:

              I'm in the same area as @wrx7m

              2 questions:

              1. What if you want the local co-lo as a "hot" site
              2. For those that have co-lo in other geographical area's, do you own the gear or lease from the colo provider
              1. In the case of NTG, we own our own gear and just rent space at the DC. Very rarely do you have a case when you actually need to put hands on the physical equipment.
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              • J
                Jason Banned @art_of_shred
                last edited by

                @art_of_shred said:

                @FATeknollogee said:

                I'm in the same area as @wrx7m

                2 questions:

                1. What if you want the local co-lo as a "hot" site
                2. For those that have co-lo in other geographical area's, do you own the gear or lease from the colo provider
                1. In the case of NTG, we own our own gear and just rent space at the DC. Very rarely do you have a case when you actually need to put hands on the physical equipment.

                We have out of band management plus dial modems on routers (protected) to console in if needed.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                  last edited by

                  @FATeknollogee said:

                  1. For those that have co-lo in other geographical area's, do you own the gear or lease from the colo provider

                  We don't normally call it colo if you lease the gear. Rackspace does that kind of thing, rarely makes sense. When going colo, 90% of the time at least you want to own all of the gear. If you aren't going to own the gear, then you almost certainly should be looking at cloud computing instead.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Jason
                    last edited by

                    @Jason said:

                    @art_of_shred said:

                    @FATeknollogee said:

                    I'm in the same area as @wrx7m

                    2 questions:

                    1. What if you want the local co-lo as a "hot" site
                    2. For those that have co-lo in other geographical area's, do you own the gear or lease from the colo provider
                    1. In the case of NTG, we own our own gear and just rent space at the DC. Very rarely do you have a case when you actually need to put hands on the physical equipment.

                    We have out of band management plus dial modems on routers (protected) to console in if needed.

                    Same here. ILO, DRAC, IPMI, etc.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                      last edited by

                      @FATeknollogee said:

                      1. What if you want the local co-lo as a "hot" site

                      Then you don't want it around the world as latency comes into play, but normally you would at least want it in another city if not state. For you, Fremont might make sense, or Vegas, for example. Far, but not crazy far.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        If you are doing colo for your primary workload (live production) then you typically want it close-ish to you. Close enough to get latency as low as reasonable. But local isn't important at all unless you are talking Wall St. trading systems. You could be a few states away. If you are American, this normally means "your side of the Mississippi" with places like Texas, Chicago, Iowi and Missouri being good enough for either coast, which is why they are popular datacenter locations.

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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee @RojoLoco
                          last edited by

                          @RojoLoco said:

                          If they have a datacenter in the location you choose, QTS has been amazing for us. Highly recommended, top quality company, great facilities and service.

                          http://www.qtsdatacenters.com/data-centers

                          What size "space" are you leasing & what's the cost?

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                          • RojoLocoR
                            RojoLoco @FATeknollogee
                            last edited by

                            @FATeknollogee we have an 8x8 cage, not sure about the rate. They rent everything from 1U rack space to multiple cages. They lease internet connectivity (carrier agnostic) by 1mbps increments. We get 1gbps up/down. They have extensive power/cooling redundancy, dry fire suppression, all the bells and whistles.

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                            • wrx7mW
                              wrx7m
                              last edited by wrx7m

                              I guess I was thinking more of a power/climate and fire/flood perspective for up time. I don't like to travel or drive outside of my local area (LA traffic is the worst). But I may just look at offloading some things to VPC and more into Veeam Cloudconnect.

                              Does anyone know anything about ISWest? http://isle.net/colocation/

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                              • FATeknollogeeF
                                FATeknollogee @wrx7m
                                last edited by

                                @wrx7m said:

                                I guess I was thinking more of a power/climate and fire/flood perspective for up time. I don't like to travel or drive outside of my local area (LA traffic is the worst). But I may just look at offloading some things to VPC and more into Veeam Cloudconnect.

                                Does anyone know anything about ISWest? http://isle.net/colocation/

                                I looked at ISWest.
                                Base monthly co-lo fees are low, but they charge for bandwidth & they have some insurance requirements.

                                I can always send you the proposal I have.

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                                • wrx7mW
                                  wrx7m @FATeknollogee
                                  last edited by

                                  @FATeknollogee Thanks! I would appreciate that. Where else have you been looking?

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                                  • FATeknollogeeF
                                    FATeknollogee @wrx7m
                                    last edited by

                                    @wrx7m So far, mainly in downtown LA.
                                    I've visited http://www.quadranet.com
                                    I'm leaning toward this Tier 4 datacenter https://www.psychz.net/colocation.html

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                                    • wrx7mW
                                      wrx7m @FATeknollogee
                                      last edited by

                                      @FATeknollogee Thanks.

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                                      • drewlanderD
                                        drewlander @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        d only ever used semi-local. W

                                        Wow! Toronto!? In HealthcareIT (When I worked for Eclipsys) I remember some problems we had because of conflicts between PHIPA and The Patriot Act. Id feel safer with my business in Toronto too, thinking about it. 😜

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                                        • drewlanderD
                                          drewlander @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          wn all of the

                                          I lease with buyout from HP and use un-managed colo. An aged asset becomes a liability for my business continuity. However I dont think I would lease equipment from Rackspace fwiw. My aged hardware becomes dev hardware upon replacement.

                                          thx
                                          -d

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