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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @windso
      last edited by

      @windso said:

      @Dashrender said:

      The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

      under my current load (pretty close to full test yesterday) my two APC 3000XL units (server each have one power cord to each) and one APC 3000 (switches and phone system) all last about 40 mins.

      The Eaton 5PX would be the comparable model, specifically the 5PX3000RT. I'd stick to a 5PX1500RT if you need the runtime. The 5PX allows you to use external batteries and extend the runtime form the base unit.

      No prices on the 230 V models. That's what I have currently (the only power options available too).

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @BRRABill
        last edited by

        @BRRABill said:

        @Dashrender said:

        You mean besides huge prices? I'm guessing the P model has all of the advanced networking tech that the S home model does not.

        That was my original question. For 1 server, that has USB, would the S line be OK?

        I'm not sure what "advanced networking" features are. In my original thread the only thing that was really mentioned was the 2 distinct output groups.

        You'll definitely have no remote management of the UPS on the S series. that was stated via Jared's question earlier.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          You'll definitely have no remote management of the UPS on the S series. that was stated via Jared's question earlier.

          In this AMA? I went back and re-read and STILL didn't see that.

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          • windsoW
            windso Vendor @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            No prices on the 230 V models. That's what I have currently (the only power options available too).

            Odd. Definitely a web glitch. Thanks for letting us know. We'll have it fixed ASAP.
            In the mean time, prices are right in line with their 120V equivalents.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
              last edited by

              @MattSpeller that picture is going to be their new ad!

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              • windsoW
                windso Vendor @scottalanmiller
                last edited by windso

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @MattSpeller that picture is going to be their new ad!

                Why wouldn't we use it! So gorgeous. I almost cried a little...

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @JColeKen
                  last edited by

                  @BRRABill here it is.

                  @JColeKen said:

                  @JaredBusch They can report status, but you're unable to take any action on the ones that do not have the network card.

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                  • gbeyhautG
                    gbeyhaut @BRRABill
                    last edited by gbeyhaut

                    @BRRABill indeed @Dashrender , no network card slot on the "Superior" models. (Also not rack mountable). Breakdown of line card can be found here. "P" is for premium. Anything with "X" has extended battery capabilities.

                    http://powerquality.eaton.com/xDomainLitDownload/cross_domain_ll_download.asp?file=5seriesOverviewBR153013EN.pdf&ctry=5

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                    • gbeyhautG
                      gbeyhaut @windso
                      last edited by

                      @windso he's actually printing and framing it right now! www.eaton.com/9PX is @windso's baby

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        So for 1 server, the network reporting wouldn't be a big deal. If you had a bunch, or multiple Eaton units, that's whee the network management start to be really useful.

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                        • gbeyhautG
                          gbeyhaut @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill unless you want to shut that one server down remotely 🙂 Which can come in handy when the power goes out, your A/C isn't running and your server starts to overheat while running on battery. (FEAR MONGERING!!!)

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                          • windsoW
                            windso Vendor @gbeyhaut
                            last edited by

                            @gbeyhaut said:

                            @BRRABill unless you want to shut that one server down remotely 🙂 Which can come in handy when the power goes out, your A/C isn't running and your server starts to overheat while running on battery. (FEAR MONGERING!!!)

                            Oh Hush.

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                            • gbeyhautG
                              gbeyhaut @windso
                              last edited by

                              @windso on the weekend no less!!!

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @gbeyhaut
                                last edited by

                                @gbeyhaut said:

                                @BRRABill unless you want to shut that one server down remotely 🙂 Which can come in handy when the power goes out, your A/C isn't running and your server starts to overheat while running on battery. (FEAR MONGERING!!!)

                                Precisely what we use the 9PX for. Servers stay up for the ~10-15 mins it takes to shut them down, then the bulk of the run time goes to our PoE switches + Mitel box to keep the phones running in case of emergency.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @gbeyhaut
                                  last edited by

                                  @gbeyhaut said:

                                  @BRRABill unless you want to shut that one server down remotely 🙂 Which can come in handy when the power goes out, your A/C isn't running and your server starts to overheat while running on battery. (FEAR MONGERING!!!)

                                  Of course the FiOS would also be down, and thus I'd have no way to reach out to that UPS anyway.

                                  FEAR CONTROLLED! 🙂

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller
                                    last edited by

                                    By the way - kudos to the engineer who designed the rack mount EBU's so that you can pull the batteries out, rack it, stuff them back in. My back thanks you.

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                                    • windsoW
                                      windso Vendor @MattSpeller
                                      last edited by

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      By the way - kudos to the engineer who designed the rack mount EBU's so that you can pull the batteries out, rack it, stuff them back in. My back thanks you.

                                      You bet. Quite a team effort in reality.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @MattSpeller
                                        last edited by

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        @gbeyhaut said:

                                        @BRRABill unless you want to shut that one server down remotely 🙂 Which can come in handy when the power goes out, your A/C isn't running and your server starts to overheat while running on battery. (FEAR MONGERING!!!)

                                        Precisely what we use the 9PX for. Servers stay up for the ~10-15 mins it takes to shut them down, then the bulk of the run time goes to our PoE switches + Mitel box to keep the phones running in case of emergency.

                                        I now get to look into that.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
                                          last edited by Dashrender

                                          Just got out of a power outage post mortem.

                                          I get to replace the UPS in the remote network closet with a UPS that works on the network. Yeah!

                                          Who should I talk to about the trade in stuff?

                                          I currently have an APC 1000XL. I want at least 1500VA and talks to the network.

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre
                                            last edited by

                                            Many thanks for the Eaton folks coming out and hanging with us and answering our questions today!

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