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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @Dashrender said:

      The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

      Well I am comparing it to the 5P1500 so the run time should be the same, I'd think.

      I'm really looking for the differences in features between the S and P lines.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said:

        @BRRABill said:

        @Dashrender said:

        We just had a 2.5 hour outage yesterday and I hadn't replaced my desktop UPS yet. I'm ordering this right now (Amazon has it for $200 for the 1500 model.. awesome price!)

        CDW (who we buy from) is even cheaper, and according to this AMA they'll give you credit for trade-in!

        If I decide from the next 2 hours of answers from Eaton that the 5S is going to be OK for my new server, I'll be placing an order as well today!

        The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

        under my current load (pretty close to full test yesterday) my two APC 3000XL units (server each have one power cord to each) and one APC 3000 (switches and phone system) all last about 40 mins.

        How long is it taking that stuff to shut down?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @BRRABill
          last edited by

          @BRRABill said:

          @Dashrender said:

          The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

          Well I am comparing it to the 5P1500 so the run time should be the same, I'd think.

          I'm really looking for the differences in features between the S and P lines.

          You mean besides huge prices? I'm guessing the P model has all of the advanced networking tech that the S home model does not.

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          • windsoW
            windso Vendor @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

            under my current load (pretty close to full test yesterday) my two APC 3000XL units (server each have one power cord to each) and one APC 3000 (switches and phone system) all last about 40 mins.

            The Eaton 5PX would be the comparable model, specifically the 5PX3000RT. I'd stick to a 5PX1500RT if you need the runtime. The 5PX allows you to use external batteries and extend the runtime form the base unit.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              You mean besides huge prices? I'm guessing the P model has all of the advanced networking tech that the S home model does not.

              That was my original question. For 1 server, that has USB, would the S line be OK?

              I'm not sure what "advanced networking" features are. In my original thread the only thing that was really mentioned was the 2 distinct output groups.

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              • MattSpellerM
                MattSpeller
                last edited by

                For the record, super pleased with ours!

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @windso
                  last edited by

                  @windso said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

                  under my current load (pretty close to full test yesterday) my two APC 3000XL units (server each have one power cord to each) and one APC 3000 (switches and phone system) all last about 40 mins.

                  The Eaton 5PX would be the comparable model, specifically the 5PX3000RT. I'd stick to a 5PX1500RT if you need the runtime. The 5PX allows you to use external batteries and extend the runtime form the base unit.

                  No prices on the 230 V models. That's what I have currently (the only power options available too).

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    You mean besides huge prices? I'm guessing the P model has all of the advanced networking tech that the S home model does not.

                    That was my original question. For 1 server, that has USB, would the S line be OK?

                    I'm not sure what "advanced networking" features are. In my original thread the only thing that was really mentioned was the 2 distinct output groups.

                    You'll definitely have no remote management of the UPS on the S series. that was stated via Jared's question earlier.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      You'll definitely have no remote management of the UPS on the S series. that was stated via Jared's question earlier.

                      In this AMA? I went back and re-read and STILL didn't see that.

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                      • windsoW
                        windso Vendor @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        No prices on the 230 V models. That's what I have currently (the only power options available too).

                        Odd. Definitely a web glitch. Thanks for letting us know. We'll have it fixed ASAP.
                        In the mean time, prices are right in line with their 120V equivalents.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                          last edited by

                          @MattSpeller that picture is going to be their new ad!

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                          • windsoW
                            windso Vendor @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by windso

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @MattSpeller that picture is going to be their new ad!

                            Why wouldn't we use it! So gorgeous. I almost cried a little...

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @JColeKen
                              last edited by

                              @BRRABill here it is.

                              @JColeKen said:

                              @JaredBusch They can report status, but you're unable to take any action on the ones that do not have the network card.

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                              • gbeyhautG
                                gbeyhaut @BRRABill
                                last edited by gbeyhaut

                                @BRRABill indeed @Dashrender , no network card slot on the "Superior" models. (Also not rack mountable). Breakdown of line card can be found here. "P" is for premium. Anything with "X" has extended battery capabilities.

                                http://powerquality.eaton.com/xDomainLitDownload/cross_domain_ll_download.asp?file=5seriesOverviewBR153013EN.pdf&ctry=5

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                                • gbeyhautG
                                  gbeyhaut @windso
                                  last edited by

                                  @windso he's actually printing and framing it right now! www.eaton.com/9PX is @windso's baby

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    So for 1 server, the network reporting wouldn't be a big deal. If you had a bunch, or multiple Eaton units, that's whee the network management start to be really useful.

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                                    • gbeyhautG
                                      gbeyhaut @BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      @BRRABill unless you want to shut that one server down remotely 🙂 Which can come in handy when the power goes out, your A/C isn't running and your server starts to overheat while running on battery. (FEAR MONGERING!!!)

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                                      • windsoW
                                        windso Vendor @gbeyhaut
                                        last edited by

                                        @gbeyhaut said:

                                        @BRRABill unless you want to shut that one server down remotely 🙂 Which can come in handy when the power goes out, your A/C isn't running and your server starts to overheat while running on battery. (FEAR MONGERING!!!)

                                        Oh Hush.

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                                        • gbeyhautG
                                          gbeyhaut @windso
                                          last edited by

                                          @windso on the weekend no less!!!

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                                          • MattSpellerM
                                            MattSpeller @gbeyhaut
                                            last edited by

                                            @gbeyhaut said:

                                            @BRRABill unless you want to shut that one server down remotely 🙂 Which can come in handy when the power goes out, your A/C isn't running and your server starts to overheat while running on battery. (FEAR MONGERING!!!)

                                            Precisely what we use the 9PX for. Servers stay up for the ~10-15 mins it takes to shut them down, then the bulk of the run time goes to our PoE switches + Mitel box to keep the phones running in case of emergency.

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