The Great MangoLassi Grilled Cheese Throwdown
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@coliver said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Can you get decent cheese in America? I'm not being rude, I just don't know. I've never see any American cheese for sale over here, but I don't know if that's because it doesn't travel, it's crap, or there are big import tariffs.
I know from watching Man v Food that Americans seem to put melted cheese on EVERYTHING.
There are quite a few decent cheeses in the US. We have a few artisanal cheese and meat shops around here that make some amazing cheese.
Is "artisanal" a word? All I see is "Art is anal".
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@art_of_shred said:
@coliver said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Can you get decent cheese in America? I'm not being rude, I just don't know. I've never see any American cheese for sale over here, but I don't know if that's because it doesn't travel, it's crap, or there are big import tariffs.
I know from watching Man v Food that Americans seem to put melted cheese on EVERYTHING.
There are quite a few decent cheeses in the US. We have a few artisanal cheese and meat shops around here that make some amazing cheese.
Is "artisanal" a word? All I see is "Art is anal".
I think so? Artisanal - (of a product, especially food or drink) made in a traditional or non-mechanized way.
Chrome's dictionary doesn't say it is a word either though.
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@art_of_shred said:
Why wouldn't you?
- Fear of an early death
- ....I can't think of any other reason
Cheese is indeed awesome. A few months ago I started a project to eat a different cheese every week for two years and I recorded my progress on a blog https://101cheeses.wordpress.com/. But, as with most of personal projects, after a few weeks I gave up.
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@coliver said:
@art_of_shred said:
@coliver said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Can you get decent cheese in America? I'm not being rude, I just don't know. I've never see any American cheese for sale over here, but I don't know if that's because it doesn't travel, it's crap, or there are big import tariffs.
I know from watching Man v Food that Americans seem to put melted cheese on EVERYTHING.
There are quite a few decent cheeses in the US. We have a few artisanal cheese and meat shops around here that make some amazing cheese.
Is "artisanal" a word? All I see is "Art is anal".
I think so? Artisanal - (of a product, especially food or drink) made in a traditional or non-mechanized way.
Chrome's dictionary doesn't say it is a word either though.
I believe the correct word there would just be "artisan".
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@Carnival-Boy said:
@art_of_shred said:
Why wouldn't you?
- Fear of an early death
- ....I can't think of any other reason
Cheese is indeed awesome. A few months ago I started a project to eat a different cheese every week for two years and I recorded my progress on a blog https://101cheeses.wordpress.com/. But, as with most of personal projects, after a few weeks I gave up.
Gave up what? Eating cheese, or blogging about it? I hope only the latter.
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@art_of_shred said:
@coliver said:
@art_of_shred said:
@coliver said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Can you get decent cheese in America? I'm not being rude, I just don't know. I've never see any American cheese for sale over here, but I don't know if that's because it doesn't travel, it's crap, or there are big import tariffs.
I know from watching Man v Food that Americans seem to put melted cheese on EVERYTHING.
There are quite a few decent cheeses in the US. We have a few artisanal cheese and meat shops around here that make some amazing cheese.
Is "artisanal" a word? All I see is "Art is anal".
I think so? Artisanal - (of a product, especially food or drink) made in a traditional or non-mechanized way.
Chrome's dictionary doesn't say it is a word either though.
I believe the correct word there would just be "artisan".
Wouldn't it be artisan made cheese then? artisanal would be describing how the cheese was made which is what I was going for.
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@art_of_shred said
Gave up what? Eating cheese, or blogging about it? I hope only the latter.
Both. I gave up buying a different type of cheese every week. Now I mostly just eat cheddar (and lot's of it), Parmesan and mozzarella.
I have high cholesterol, so really shouldn't eat that much.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Super high quality mozzarella is made in NY which is why the local pizza is so famous. It's the place with access to the fresh cheese.
We have some of the best mozzarella around here as well. My relatives from California rave about it when they visit.... these are self described wine and cheese snobs.
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@coliver said:
@art_of_shred said:
@coliver said:
@art_of_shred said:
@coliver said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Can you get decent cheese in America? I'm not being rude, I just don't know. I've never see any American cheese for sale over here, but I don't know if that's because it doesn't travel, it's crap, or there are big import tariffs.
I know from watching Man v Food that Americans seem to put melted cheese on EVERYTHING.
There are quite a few decent cheeses in the US. We have a few artisanal cheese and meat shops around here that make some amazing cheese.
Is "artisanal" a word? All I see is "Art is anal".
I think so? Artisanal - (of a product, especially food or drink) made in a traditional or non-mechanized way.
Chrome's dictionary doesn't say it is a word either though.
I believe the correct word there would just be "artisan".
Wouldn't it be artisan made cheese then? artisanal would be describing how the cheese was made which is what I was going for.
LMGTFY:
ar·ti·san·al
/ärˈtēzən(ə)l/
adjective
adjective: artisanal
relating to or characteristic of an artisan.
"artisanal skills"•(of a product, especially food or drink) made in a traditional or non-mechanized way.
"artisanal cheeses"I stand corrected... but I still don't like the word
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@art_of_shred said:
@coliver said:
@art_of_shred said:
@coliver said:
@art_of_shred said:
@coliver said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Can you get decent cheese in America? I'm not being rude, I just don't know. I've never see any American cheese for sale over here, but I don't know if that's because it doesn't travel, it's crap, or there are big import tariffs.
I know from watching Man v Food that Americans seem to put melted cheese on EVERYTHING.
There are quite a few decent cheeses in the US. We have a few artisanal cheese and meat shops around here that make some amazing cheese.
Is "artisanal" a word? All I see is "Art is anal".
I think so? Artisanal - (of a product, especially food or drink) made in a traditional or non-mechanized way.
Chrome's dictionary doesn't say it is a word either though.
I believe the correct word there would just be "artisan".
Wouldn't it be artisan made cheese then? artisanal would be describing how the cheese was made which is what I was going for.
LMGTFY:
ar·ti·san·al
/ärˈtēzən(ə)l/
adjective
adjective: artisanal
relating to or characteristic of an artisan.
"artisanal skills"•(of a product, especially food or drink) made in a traditional or non-mechanized way.
"artisanal cheeses"I stand corrected... but I still don't like the word
Haha. It doesn't look or sound right to me either...
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Why don't any of these grilled cheese sandwiches have bacon on them? Seriously... or at least ham!
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@art_of_shred said:
@coliver said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Can you get decent cheese in America? I'm not being rude, I just don't know. I've never see any American cheese for sale over here, but I don't know if that's because it doesn't travel, it's crap, or there are big import tariffs.
I know from watching Man v Food that Americans seem to put melted cheese on EVERYTHING.
There are quite a few decent cheeses in the US. We have a few artisanal cheese and meat shops around here that make some amazing cheese.
Is "artisanal" a word? All I see is "Art is anal".
It's a marketing term.... it means "this product is made in a tiny place, using outdated and inefficient methods so we can charge waaaay too much for it". See also: Organic.
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@RojoLoco said:
@art_of_shred said:
@coliver said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Can you get decent cheese in America? I'm not being rude, I just don't know. I've never see any American cheese for sale over here, but I don't know if that's because it doesn't travel, it's crap, or there are big import tariffs.
I know from watching Man v Food that Americans seem to put melted cheese on EVERYTHING.
There are quite a few decent cheeses in the US. We have a few artisanal cheese and meat shops around here that make some amazing cheese.
Is "artisanal" a word? All I see is "Art is anal".
It's a marketing term.... it means "this product is made in a tiny place, using outdated and inefficient methods so we can charge waaaay too much for it". See also: Organic.
No argument's there...
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Disagree. I think generally the best food and drink is made by small producers using traditional techniques. Big producers naturally put efficiency and cost ahead of quality. The US produces some great beer, for example, but everything I've ever drunk by Budweiser or Coors has been total, undrinkable piss.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Disagree. I think generally the best food and drink is made by small producers using traditional techniques. Big producers naturally put efficiency and cost ahead of quality. The US produces some great beer, for example, but everything I've ever drunk by Budweiser or Coors has been total, undrinkable piss.
To be fair, though, Budweiser is InBev from Belgium.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Disagree. I think generally the best food and drink is made by small producers using traditional techniques. Big producers naturally put efficiency and cost ahead of quality. The US produces some great beer, for example, but everything I've ever drunk by Budweiser or Coors has been total, undrinkable piss.
While this is true, that does not mean it has no quality.
@scottalanmiller said:
To be fair, though, Budweiser is InBev from Belgium.
That is completely misleading. AB may have been purchased by InBev, but that does not change that Budweiser is a beer from the US.
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@JaredBusch said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Disagree. I think generally the best food and drink is made by small producers using traditional techniques. Big producers naturally put efficiency and cost ahead of quality. The US produces some great beer, for example, but everything I've ever drunk by Budweiser or Coors has been total, undrinkable piss.
While this is true, that does not mean it has no quality.
@scottalanmiller said:
To be fair, though, Budweiser is InBev from Belgium.
That is completely misleading. AB may have been purchased by InBev, but that does not change that Budweiser is a beer from the US.
It's an important perspective, though. We don't think of Honda or VW as American cars even though they are made here.
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There's a good cheese place near me in Philly.
I've never been there myself, but they are quite famous. Infamous? Well known.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Disagree. I think generally the best food and drink is made by small producers using traditional techniques. Big producers naturally put efficiency and cost ahead of quality. The US produces some great beer, for example, but everything I've ever drunk by Budweiser or Coors has been total, undrinkable piss.
While this is true, that does not mean it has no quality.
@scottalanmiller said:
To be fair, though, Budweiser is InBev from Belgium.
That is completely misleading. AB may have been purchased by InBev, but that does not change that Budweiser is a beer from the US.
It's an important perspective, though. We don't think of Honda or VW as American cars even though they are made here.
But they don't originate here. They were made elsewhere. The company is still elsewhere; they just outsourced assembly. Budweiser is American. Some suits in Belgium bought the brand. It was made here before that. It's still made here. It's American. Not at all the same.
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Actually many of their products originate in the US. Or vice versa. The Chevy Spark is 100% S. Korean. Just rebranded, but people consider it American. Really it comes down to perception more than anything. BMWs that come from Europe are often from Austria, not Germany. Chevys are often from Korea. Budweiser is brewed locally wherever it is drank. If you drink it outside the US, it is normally made outside of the US. Sam Adams is normally brewed in Rochester, not Boston. Labatts is owned and brewed in the US, etc
