Backup System For 5 PC SMB
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@scottalanmiller said:
Ah, the requirement to not have a server sounded like a NAS would not be an option since a NAS is just a type of server. That requirement was confusing. If having a NAS is acceptable we have much better options.
Ah, perhaps that is what was confusing people.
Yes, there has to be a place to store the local ShadowProtect/Veeam/Etc backup. But I am looking for cloud replication of those backups, because some of the places I deal with, it's not out of the realm of possibility they backup device would be stolen along with the PC.
I was originally thinking USB drive on each machine, but a NAS would work just as well. And I know some of the NASes out there you can replicate.
Are we getting somewhere?
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@BRRABill Yup! I still suggest a synology nas + cloudsync to nas + backup nas to cloud + schedule disk2vhd
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@scottalanmiller said:
I actually think that AetherStore might be your real answer here. You get to keep everything that you have as it is, add nothing but one piece of software and voila... you have storage capacity on your network with rapid restore capabilities. Calling @shannon @Rob @aboyd
Hmm. Seems like with 5 computers it would be pretty fragile though.
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So from a product standpoint, it sounds like a two bay Synology, ioSafe or ReadyNAS is where you want to be. Those are the vendors that make the most sense here.
For a small business like this ioSafe might be very interesting as their ioSafe 214 is the perfect size and is fire safe and water resistant.
@Brett-at-ioSafe for ioSafe
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@Jason said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I actually think that AetherStore might be your real answer here. You get to keep everything that you have as it is, add nothing but one piece of software and voila... you have storage capacity on your network with rapid restore capabilities. Calling @shannon @Rob @aboyd
Hmm. Seems like with 5 computers it would be pretty fragile though.
The stock setup is to use only four.
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@MattSpeller said:
@BRRABill Yup! I still suggest a synology nas + cloudsync to nas + backup nas to cloud + schedule disk2vhd
Are you overwriting the backup each time you do that? Also, isn't that going to take a considerable amount of time?
It's why I was thining incremental imaged-based would be the way to go.
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@BRRABill said:
Are you overwriting the backup each time you do that? Also, isn't that going to take a considerable amount of time?
Buy enough space to save at least 1 extra copy & not really for just 5 pc's. You could easily rip 1TB over gig lan a night.
It's why I was thining incremental imaged-based would be the way to go.
Yeah, that'd be better, but it wouldn't be free
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Doesn't have to be free.
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@BRRABill go acronis then like you mentioned in the OP - I used it years ago and it kicked some serious butt for stuff like that.
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@MattSpeller said:
@BRRABill go acronis then like you mentioned in the OP - I used it years ago and it kicked some serious butt for stuff like that.
I was actually looking at that.
http://www.acronis.com/en-us/cloud/backup-service/purchase/
$299 a year for 3 PCs with 250GB. local and cloud.
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@scottalanmiller said:
- Continue to use backup products like StorageCraft and avoid getting a NAS but move to AetherStore to turn the unused local drive space into a backup target for the network.
funny I too was thinking of AetherStore while at lunch.
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Though to go from 250GB to 500GB the price goes from $299 to $1049.
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This is one of the areas where Aetherstore would really shine, I think. I'm currently using it as a backup target for my lab at work, and it seems to do pretty good (and I have a crappy lab setup, lol).
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@dafyre said:
This is one of the areas where Aetherstore would really shine, I think. I'm currently using it as a backup target for my lab at work, and it seems to do pretty good (and I have a crappy lab setup, lol).
How does it deal with getting the data offsite?
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@BRRABill said:
@dafyre said:
This is one of the areas where Aetherstore would really shine, I think. I'm currently using it as a backup target for my lab at work, and it seems to do pretty good (and I have a crappy lab setup, lol).
How does it deal with getting the data offsite?
Instead of getting a NAS, you would use Aetherstore. And then get the data Off-Site with whatever products you have been looking at for that.
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@BRRABill said:
Though to go from 250GB to 500GB the price goes from $299 to $1049.
Acronis is horrifically expensive but it can be the difference between 1 person IT department and having to hire a 2nd.
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I should mention Aetherstore would work best if everybody is working from Desktops that are left on 24/7, and not desktops that are shut off at the end of the day or laptops that are gone a lot.
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The use of the NAS should only be for the data. I suppose you could also image the PCs and store the images on the NAS, the replicate it to the cloud.
Again, move away from making regular images of the endpoints. That's home user thinking, not SMB thinking.
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@BRRABill said:
@dafyre said:
This is one of the areas where Aetherstore would really shine, I think. I'm currently using it as a backup target for my lab at work, and it seems to do pretty good (and I have a crappy lab setup, lol).
How does it deal with getting the data offsite?
It does not. You would do that using any normal tool to move the data offsite. AetherStore is an onsite storage solution only. It turns your desktop PCs into a "network SAN."
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@MattSpeller said:
@BRRABill said:
Though to go from 250GB to 500GB the price goes from $299 to $1049.
Acronis is horrifically expensive but it can be the difference between 1 person IT department and having to hire a 2nd.
Except we've been hired by companies because Acronis was so complicated to get working correctly that even with Acronis support they couldn't get it working. So it could, in rare cases, be getting Acronis to work that requires you to go from one to two IT staffers
