@johnhooks said:

Well it's official now. I start on Monday as a senior systems engineer with Curtiss-Wright.

Awesome! Congratulations man!

@scottalanmiller said:

@brianlittlejohn said:

@scottalanmiller said:

What is even "worse", if anything can be, is that the Cisco Platinum Partner host that was hosting the event decided to play along and not call their bluff and hope that the audience, which was all IT people, wouldn't notice!! That or they actually weren't aware of what a realistic lie about networking would sound like.

I don't even want to imagine how much the Cisco router would be that could handle 14Tb/s ...

Hard to imagine Cisco ever being able to handle that. Ubiquiti will be doing 1Pb/s before Cisco figures TB/s out!

Ubiquiti gets all the street cred (and probably all the single ladies too).

@gjacobse said:

Doing the token computer scan:

I'm also on hold since I called the number.

Ask them what their sign is. I'm betting scorpio

@scottalanmiller said:

We excuse and enable people by making it socially acceptable to not do their due diligence in this one part of life that no one would accept in any other walk of life.

I can get behind this sentiment. I try to educate my users as much as I can but our turnover rate is pretty bad. I also don't have a lot of users interested in it. My company does cater to people who "can't figure it out" and I don't agree with that. You have to change with technology.

@IRJ said:

@MattSpeller said:

@IRJ said:

@MattSpeller said:

@IRJ said:

There are alot of Windows mobile fanboys on SW. I was really surprised to see so many tech people like it.

WinPho has a ton of promise if it integrated deeply and took advantage of the microsoft ecosystem. Unfortunately it's a couple years late, the market has already distilled down to two major players.

You can't teach an old dog new tricks. Microsoft is an old player in the mobile market. They have been around longer than Apple and Google. I have been hearing they have potential for years...

I meant winpho specifically but you're 100% correct. Don't forget about WinCE too

That wasn't directed at you, but there are alot of people that feel sorry for MS and treat them like a new player/underdog in the industry. They say things like they have potential or they are improving with each version.

Which brings me to my next tech recommendation, the Scholes and Glidden Typewriter seen below:

Now I know you think the other brands have something to offer but I'm here to tell you this typewriter is here to stay. You will never find a better typewriter.

@scottalanmiller said:

@wirestyle22 said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@JaredBusch said:

People avoid it? What planet are you on? The entire conversation is that they have no idea it is needed.

But they are offered it everywhere that they turn, just like they are with their car. Where are things different?

Due diligence in all things.

I think there is a sweet spot in regards to this. Yes they should know some things like basic maintenance etc. but I doubt all of us agree what is contained within that sweet spot knowledge-wise for our users.

Of course, and the most basic thing is not running as admin and the second most basic is reading things before you accept them. There has to be a minimum level of caring, at some point we can't help people.

Right but there is a difference in users ability to learn. I have users who don't know what to do if a shortcut is moved on a desktop. We do the best we can. It would be great if everyone were intelligent enough (or motivated enough) to read books on all of the things we use daily but I don't think it's realistic as an expectation. Should they do it? Yeah of course. I don't expect them to though.

@scottalanmiller said:

@JaredBusch said:

People avoid it? What planet are you on? The entire conversation is that they have no idea it is needed.

But they are offered it everywhere that they turn, just like they are with their car. Where are things different?

Due diligence in all things.

I think there is a sweet spot in regards to this. Yes they should know some things like basic maintenance etc. but I doubt all of us agree what is contained within that sweet spot knowledge-wise for our users.

Comcast accused one of my sites of downloading illegal software. I tried to resolve it via security assurance only be told im not on the account. I asked why im not on the account as I should have been added (and I requested) over two years ago. I was e-mailed back saying I am on the account. Call comcast back. "You're not on the account".

Wheel of morality turn turn turn. Tell us the lesson that we should learn.

@MattSpeller said:

@wirestyle22 said:

@MattSpeller said:

@NattNatt said:

Company now uses all Cat6 - but I miss Cat 5e, was easier to run and terminate, easier to bend etc too...

You won't miss 5e in a couple years when 10gig switching is dirt cheap

I'm pretty sure this is what they promised a few years before Mad Max became actual human history but what do I k now. My network is held together by bubblegum and soothing words

Blood, sweat and bailing wire here - can relate.

Me as a sysadmin

@MattSpeller said:

@NattNatt said:

Company now uses all Cat6 - but I miss Cat 5e, was easier to run and terminate, easier to bend etc too...

You won't miss 5e in a couple years when 10gig switching is dirt cheap

I'm pretty sure this is what they promised a few years before Mad Max became actual human history but what do I know. My network is held together by bubblegum and soothing words

@johnhooks said:

@wirestyle22 said:

@johnhooks said:

@wirestyle22 said:

@johnhooks said:

@IRJ said:

@johnhooks said:

@IRJ

Internet Explorer... No explanation needed. I am sure there are other browsers, but IE is terrible.

Last I heard Opera was the only one that wasn't based on IE. I think even that squirrel browser or whatever it's called is based on IE. So really IE is your only option, and I think the phone version is worse than the desktop version if that's possible.

Is it worse than the Windows 8 Metro version? LOL

It might be a tie. It's so bad. That was probably the biggest reason I couldn't stand using my Windows phone other than the lack of apps.

And the apps that do exist look like they were made by high schoolers.

I'd make crappy apps for college credit to be fair

I don't think it's actually made by them that's the problem. If it was, that would be fine.

You would think MS would pay developers to develop on their platform since they're this far behind. Instead of mulling the idea of buying Slack for $8 billion, get people to use the junk you already have.

but can you actually prove it wasn't made by highschoolers?

That's impossible, but a quick glance through shows a lot are by companies.

I'm completely kidding

@johnhooks said:

@wirestyle22 said:

@johnhooks said:

@IRJ said:

@johnhooks said:

@IRJ

Internet Explorer... No explanation needed. I am sure there are other browsers, but IE is terrible.

Last I heard Opera was the only one that wasn't based on IE. I think even that squirrel browser or whatever it's called is based on IE. So really IE is your only option, and I think the phone version is worse than the desktop version if that's possible.

Is it worse than the Windows 8 Metro version? LOL

It might be a tie. It's so bad. That was probably the biggest reason I couldn't stand using my Windows phone other than the lack of apps.

And the apps that do exist look like they were made by high schoolers.

I'd make crappy apps for college credit to be fair

I don't think it's actually made by them that's the problem. If it was, that would be fine.

You would think MS would pay developers to develop on their platform since they're this far behind. Instead of mulling the idea of buying Slack for $8 billion, get people to use the junk you already have.

but can you actually prove it wasn't made by highschoolers?

@johnhooks said:

@IRJ said:

@johnhooks said:

@IRJ

Internet Explorer... No explanation needed. I am sure there are other browsers, but IE is terrible.

Last I heard Opera was the only one that wasn't based on IE. I think even that squirrel browser or whatever it's called is based on IE. So really IE is your only option, and I think the phone version is worse than the desktop version if that's possible.

Is it worse than the Windows 8 Metro version? LOL

It might be a tie. It's so bad. That was probably the biggest reason I couldn't stand using my Windows phone other than the lack of apps.

And the apps that do exist look like they were made by high schoolers.

I'd make crappy apps for college credit to be fair

Anyone playing with Ubuntu Touch?

@RojoLoco said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@RojoLoco said:

@scottalanmiller not sure what you mean.

FreePBX, Elastix... just throw one onto a VM and migrate. Step up to enterprise phones on a VM instead of old, fragile hardware with no up front cost!

Hopefully the crippled Cisco phones have the SIP option.

It would take longer to find such hardware to host a VM than it will take to get new phones. Plus I know jack shit about linux, so the learning curve to get something like that off the ground for production is simply to steep. As an open ended, no pressure learning project, sure probably a good plan, but the bosses are gonna want this fixed today. Telling them "I'm googling a how to for setting up (stuff mentioned above) will go over like a lead balloon filled with shit.

I can't wait to get this goddamned nonsense out of here.... it only needed to work another week or so.

Hang in there man. We all run into this kind of non-sense. Everything always happens when it's least convenient.

@IRJ said:

I prefer Android, but iOS is easy to use and makes sense for a mobile OS. Windows Mobile OS does not make any sense.

Why do you prefer Android out of curiosity? My previous phone was an iPhone 4S and I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S6. iOS feels better optimized to me.

@Dashrender said:

@scottalanmiller said:

Now that is a really weird solution that I would never have guessed.

After reading that - it sounds familiar.... I don't recall if I read this before or tried it more or less on accident and it worked last time...

But yes, it's really weird!!!

Good to know. Very odd.

@Dashrender said:

@wirestyle22 said:

@aaronstuder said:

Do you run CAT 6 End to End? or Do you use 5e sometimes?

The exception would be if you're doing a lot of video streaming, etc.

internally. If you're streaming from the internet, unless you're streaming at greater than 1 Gb, it would still be pointless

Correct sir!

@aaronstuder said:

Do you run CAT 6 End to End? or Do you use 5e sometimes?

The exception would be if you're doing a lot of video streaming, etc.

@scottalanmiller said:

@wirestyle22 said:

No WSUS because _____. Another thing I requested as was denied. No all of my PC's are connected to our domain. This will change when I fully install ZeroTier etc.

What's going to change? Adding them all to AD?

I can't change GPO for all PC's through the domain and have it affect all of my computers. When I connect all of my PC's to the domain I'll be able to do that. Currently I'm using a script on each PC not connected to the domain.