@dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

@thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

@dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

@thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

@dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

Run fiber from your main to the end points or a network closet that is within range of Ethernet for the computers.

Putting up small networking closets throughout is a pain.

I'm afraid I need a few dozen ports down there

You'd run a single fiber line to a switch and patch panel, and have all of the endpoints connect to the new business class switch rather than this one on the wall.

Rather than having your main run broken into multiple ethernet lines that are then connected to this switch that is hung on the wall.

Run (fixed installation) cables from the different locations to a patch panel. Patch to a real switch. Run fibre back to core.

Yes.

I think I need to do some calculations. Could be even cheaper than buying a dozen rugged switches.

Lasagne Bolognese, home-made (expect for the noodles)

@jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

@thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

@jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

You could put in low cost EdgeSwitcheLite (the non PoE version)

That's the idea. I don't have much need for PoE except for a few APs which will be powered with injectors.

Looks like the ES Lite is only in the 24 and 48 port variety..
https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgeswitch-lite/

I already have a bunch of ES-48-LITE in production. Great switches for the money.

@ChrisL said in What did you have for lunch or dinner today?:

Lunch: tacos
Dinner: tacos
Tomorrow's lunch: tacos
Tomorrow's dinner: not tacos

Keep it steady!

Just tried the Pandora FMS 7 ISO, which is based on the default CentOS 7 ISO.

I don't have a virtual NIC, looks like a driver issue. Couldn't find something with Google.

Anything obvious I just can't see? dmsg doesn't say much.

@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Conference with devs and management, nearly 10 hours...

10 hours until the conference, or it took 10 hours for the meeting?

it took 10 hours

O.o Holy cow.

yeah, got some headache during this I guess.

@dafyre said in Does any one of you has (single-board computer) if so what is the purpose ?:

I've done some (rather basic) programming on an Adruino for a guy. It was to alert him when a chicken cage door, or hog pen and something else was left open for too long, lol.

If you want to go for a uC, keep in mind that this is a whole different story. Microcontrollers are not SBCs in the sense we talked about here.

Anyway, if I would have to choose a uC, I would go for a ESP82xx every single time. There are only very few exceptions. Not only is the ESP way cheaper, it also beats the Arduino in every other aspect. One such exception might be A/D conversion, but this could also be solved by an external IC.

Awesome, thanks. Just add the tags pls

@emad-r said in Does any one of you has (single-board computer) if so what is the purpose ?:

@thwr said in Does any one of you has (single-board computer) if so what is the purpose ?:

Raspberry's, OrangePi's and a bunch of other ARM SBCs for private and business uses.

There are dozens of available Linux OS's available, but I usually stick to Debian based ones. There's even a Windows IoT version out there.

Could you be more specific? What do you want to do?

gather intelligence...

Ok. As you can see here, you can do literally anything with them. There a very few points where you must go for the micro controller route: real time behavior and ultra low power for example.

The thing is: you need to implement everything yourself when you use a uC. There are lots of software stacks and libs, but most of them require a lot of knowledge to get them running. Using a Linux capable SBC on the other hand allows you to use virtually any high level language (and libs) like Python or even C#. You also benefit from a networking capable OS: Linux.

Hardware wise... Well, take a look for Orange Pi. Way cheaper and more powerful than RPis and there are also beginner friendly communities out there.

Added "RojoLoco's magic black beans". Just asking myself what kind of magic that might be... lots of beans...

I don't know how many times I have told ppl that there is no such thing as Windows Hyper-V Server. Or that there's no Windows on the metal (what you see "on the video port" is actually a management VM).

Another big family BBQ

@brrabill said in E-Mail Retention Policies:

Currently, we have an in-house MDaemon server which kind of presents itself as Outlook. So most e-mail is stored on the server. However, there are still a few users with PST files. ABout 20 accounts.

Anyway, we are moving to Offfice365 hosted e-mail this month or next.

A few of my users have a TON of e-mail.

I was wondering what kind of retention policies everyone has. Do you keep everything? Let users delete what they want? Put older stuff in archives?

Just trying to figure out how I want to handle this when moving over, and set up best practice moving forward.

I was thinking that setting up the in-place archive for like 3 years might be a good middle ground. But then I think ... do they really need to keep all this crap?

Uhm, should I say that I still have mails from the '90s? I rarely need them, and they are not in my "hot" mail account, but there are times where access to old mails may come in handy.

I must admit: There's no real reason to keep 20-30 year old mails. But I would always keep at least the last five years.

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

The Surface Pro 3 currently is having a battery problem, not sure if it's the batteries themselves or a software issue, thought MS has been quoted as saying they think they can fix it in software.

One problem about the Surface Pro is that they glued that damn thing like an iPad / Android tablet. iFixit got some reviews about this. Hard to replace or upgrade parts.

Just tried it, and yes, missing integration services.

Long story short: I'll stick with Ubuntu Yeah, I know, I could easily install them, but I'm more in the Debian corner anyway.

So many new mangos. Welcome aboard everyone.

@dustinb3403 said in Asset Management:

@thwr said in Asset Management:

Snipe-IT

You should've just quoted me.

Ah, you know, we stupid German guys just want to tell our own story

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender No question, just a statement. Would love to buy them, but like you say, they are not serviceable at all. Would just have been nice if you could upgrade RAM or the SSD maybe without losing your warranty.

Having that ability would require the unit to be considerably larger. Consider the Samsung S5 vs the S6. The S6 is several millimeters thinner because they didn't have to put in extra plastic layers to protect the motherboard from the user when they were swapping batteries.

It's all give and take. Now that said.. the fact that the higher memory options are so much more ridiculously priced versus what those extra resources actually cost - well that's an Apple pricing model for ya (I'm sure Apple didn't invent it either). You want premium specs.. well golly gee, you're going to pay us for them.

Sure, but why do we need ultra-fancy, super-thin devices? We're not users of half-eaten fruits. Make them an idea thicker, that's ok About premium prices: The Surface Pro already is a premium product. I can get a very decent notebook for the price.

@lakshmana said in Timeout in .sh file:

@scottalanmiller said in Timeout in .sh file:

@lakshmana said in Timeout in .sh file:

@scottalanmiller If i am giving the .sh file to be runned with ny collegues system i cannot share that the executable file since it may lead Infosec Issue

How will that work regardless of the tool used?

@scottalanmiller said in Timeout in .sh file:

@lakshmana said in Timeout in .sh file:

@scottalanmiller If i am giving the .sh file to be runned with ny collegues system i cannot share that the executable file since it may lead Infosec Issue

How will that work regardless of the tool used?

That .sh file should download the data by terminal or by Browser inside the machine without using credentials!!!

Ok, full stop. What happens here is that your web server simply tells you: "Hey, dude, I would love to give you that file, but your f'ing unauthorized, so just leave me alone. I won't give you the file unless you can present me a valid auth".

In other words: HTTP 401 Unauthorized.

So what needs to be done is simple: we need to authenticate against the server. This does not relate to the client side in any way. You will see the same behavior in Internet Explorer, Edge, Chrome, misc. PowerShell cmdlets or whatever else you may use to access that file.

Like SAM said, let us stop talking about client side tools for now. Let us instead discuss very basic authentication mechanisms.

After-work BBQ. Temperature jumped from 20°C/68°F to 32°C/90°F within one day. Had a few "Alsterwasser" (beer with white lemonade), not a good idea. Went right into the head, if you know what I mean