@JaredBusch said in Cheap Cloud Storage for Offsite Backup.:

@scottalanmiller said in Cheap Cloud Storage for Offsite Backup.:

@openit said in Cheap Cloud Storage for Offsite Backup.:

@scottalanmiller said in Cheap Cloud Storage for Offsite Backup.:

Check out BackBlaze B2.

Okay, I am inquiring it.

How people do backups to Cloud storage (for offsite) ? do they schedules backups from on-site backup to Cloud or directly from file server to Cloud ?

In my case, we do have on-site backup on QNAP NAS, so do I need to push the on-site backup to cloud to avoid burden on Server ?

Depends what you want to do.

@openit you generally want to make copies of the backups.

How this works varies depending on your backup solution.

@JaredBusch said in Cheap Cloud Storage for Offsite Backup.:

@scottalanmiller said in Cheap Cloud Storage for Offsite Backup.:

@openit said in Cheap Cloud Storage for Offsite Backup.:

@scottalanmiller said in Cheap Cloud Storage for Offsite Backup.:

Check out BackBlaze B2.

Okay, I am inquiring it.

How people do backups to Cloud storage (for offsite) ? do they schedules backups from on-site backup to Cloud or directly from file server to Cloud ?

In my case, we do have on-site backup on QNAP NAS, so do I need to push the on-site backup to cloud to avoid burden on Server ?

Depends what you want to do.

@openit you generally want to make copies of the backups.

How this works varies depending on your backup solution.

Okay. If in general, people used to copy the backup files to offsite, so no need to think of copying from Server, while we can do it from NAS box itself and it can remove the burden on Server.

And when I think of copying backup files, I need to copy whole data and restoration also should be whole (because backup files with incremental will depend on other files).

I understand, I need to do my calculations.

@dafyre said in Cheap Cloud Storage for Offsite Backup.:

I am currently backing up to a backup VM, and then uploading it from there to my Amazon Cloud Drive.

I see, how's it different from Glacier or packages from Amazon ? Maybe Glacier is for archiving purpose ?

How about pricing with Amazon Cloud Drive ? I have seen one with "Unlimited Storage" is for $59.99 per year, what are the limitations in this Unlimited package ?

@scottalanmiller said in Cheap Cloud Storage for Offsite Backup.:

Check out BackBlaze B2.

Okay, I am inquiring it.

How people do backups to Cloud storage (for offsite) ? do they schedules backups from on-site backup to Cloud or directly from file server to Cloud ?

In my case, we do have on-site backup on QNAP NAS, so do I need to push the on-site backup to cloud to avoid burden on Server ?

Hi all,

In process of setting up Offsite backup, I have posted earlier about NAS to NAS replication, there I got good suggestions. And still looking for other options, like Cloud Storage.

Earlier, our managements seems shown interest on getting NAS and placing it on authorized person's home, but realized they may ask about Cloud Option details too, so I am here to discuss and know before suggesting them.

So, I think I may need to get 7TB Storage Space to Backup the On-site backup (NAS) to cloud.

My guess is, Amazon Glacier is the cheapest one, but there restore scheme is not very clear to put the cost in-front of Management.

What's your opinion, how much it may cost per year ?

Thanks !!

@scottalanmiller said in Gonna start IT Blog. Info and advices on legality required.:

@openit said in Gonna start IT Blog. Info and advices on legality required.:

Have passion to run own website from long ago, now decided to start it and of course, for commercial (income source) too

You have to have tons and tons of readers to even cover the cost of hosting a site. Don't expect to make an income from it. Even with tens of thousands of monthly readers you will often be unable to make any money. And if you are primarily copying content ideas from other locations, it will be that much harder as you will struggle to get SEO in comparison to the source material, which is obviously older.

You don't write a blog to make money, that's not a realistic option. If you have writing of value, you can get paid to be a writer for an existing publication. Writing your own blog is harder, not easier, than doing that.

I understand that even after thousands of viewers, there will be less income.

My main target is not to make money, I can effort for hosting etc. expenses as I am doing job. So it's more about Passion.

Yeah, as said above, I am observing only after we moved to MS Office 2016 (which is included with OneNote application) and with earlier version MS 2010, there was no OneNote app in our computers.

@scottalanmiller said in OneNote files everywhere in shared folders after migration to MS Office 2016.:

Do you mean inside of Sharepoint?

Nope. Nothing about Sharepoint here.

I am talking about OneNote file (Microsoft OneNote Table of Contents (.onetoc2)) files have been created everywhere on File Server (shared folders).

@scottalanmiller said in Not seeing traffic for O365 emails at 587, 993 and 995 ports on Firewall.:

@openit said in Not seeing traffic for O365 emails at 587, 993 and 995 ports on Firewall.:

@scottalanmiller said in Not seeing traffic for O365 emails at 587, 993 and 995 ports on Firewall.:

@openit said in Not seeing traffic for O365 emails at 587, 993 and 995 ports on Firewall.:

Ok, I understand, due to direct connection from Outlook with exchange, no port is being hit on Firewall. So only non-genuine emails going to be recognized at firewall.

Thanks.

Correct. Outlook has basically a private VPN back to the Exchange server over port 443 so no visible traffic of email on your network because there is none. That's better, so ANY SMTP traffic, on any port, is suspect.

Is that also means, if our ISP is blocking our email things due to Spam issue, it's not going to effect our O365 users (while they send emails through outlook client) ?

Outlook doesn't use SMTP or send email, it sends instructions to Exchange, which is totally different. No email protocols are involved.

Okay, so any email ports blocked by our ISP is not going to effect our O365 users.

Hi all,

I am seeing OneNote files in each folder of Shared Folder. And I am observing these files only after we migrated to Office 2016 (which includes OneNote in package).

Is that some kind of indexing files ?

Is that okay to leave it or do I need to bother to clean and stop spreading over the shared folders ?

Users started to ask why and who are creating these files ?

Thanks !!

@scottalanmiller said in Not seeing traffic for O365 emails at 587, 993 and 995 ports on Firewall.:

@openit said in Not seeing traffic for O365 emails at 587, 993 and 995 ports on Firewall.:

Ok, I understand, due to direct connection from Outlook with exchange, no port is being hit on Firewall. So only non-genuine emails going to be recognized at firewall.

Thanks.

Correct. Outlook has basically a private VPN back to the Exchange server over port 443 so no visible traffic of email on your network because there is none. That's better, so ANY SMTP traffic, on any port, is suspect.

Is that also means, if our ISP is blocking our email things due to Spam issue, it's not going to effect our O365 users (while they send emails through outlook client) ?

Hello there,

Thinking to start an own website for IT how-to's, articles, stories etc.

Have passion to run own website from long ago, now decided to start it and of course, for commercial (income source) too

While being in "age of information", most of us not referring to Books to gain knowledge but mostly Google it and books may not be fully-fledged to rely on them these days ?

1. Now here is my question, we are learning from different websites on Internet and how to make sure our content (articles/blogs) are legal ?

Did you mean :

Copy and paste of content from other website to our website is different from "Learning/gaining knowledge from a website and doing similar kind of article is different and legal ?"

Let's say, I seen the article "IT is Complex" done by @scottalanmiller and I liked it very much. Now after reading it, I got idea and knowledge to write my own article in my website, so, is that legal ?

What if I say same thing on my article with different words, approach etc. ?

2. Let's talk about "Installing Snipe-IT on CentOS 7" written by @scottalanmiller. I learned from his article to set it up. How can I write article "Installation of Snipe-IT on CentOS 7" while being legal (in-case of content/copyright) ?

Maybe two questions are same ?

I am very confused about legality things related content, pics usage etc.

@scottalanmiller said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

@Dashrender said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

The amount of storage you need in your backup appliance is totally based upon the backup methods and change rate of your data.

Assume you're doing incremental backups and that your daily changes are 10 GB, your original data is 6TGB, and your NAS is 12 TB, you'll be able to fit approximately 600 days of changes on there.

BUt there might be dedupe components, as well.
No idea about Dedupe components, I don't think I do have in my environment.

@Dashrender said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

What are you using to perform your backups?

While Scott did touch on this

@scottalanmiller said in [offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method

So yes, one device will replicate exactly to the other, that's generally what you want in a situation like this. The first device should be the real backup with separation from the original environment so that an infection in the production environment does not threaten the backup device. The original backup device would carry the grandfather - father - son copies of the data. The replication to the second NAS would copy everything, all of the grandfather - father - sons.

I feel it's important that you understand that you want to separate access to the NAS storage from normal users on the systems it's backing up.

I understand this, for server backup, only backup software on Server is having access to NAS Shared folder. And for Server, only me have the access.

No point of users intervention here with Server and Server Backup things.

@Dashrender said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

The amount of storage you need in your backup appliance is totally based upon the backup methods and change rate of your data.

Assume you're doing incremental backups and that your daily changes are 10 GB, your original data is 6TGB, and your NAS is 12 TB, you'll be able to fit approximately 600 days of changes on there.

The total amount of space occupied by backup data will be around 6TB, while daily increasing amount will be around 6GB. Because I set for 2months retention period, it will stay always around 6TB. I am using EaseUS Todo Server backup.

@scottalanmiller said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

@openit said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

@scottalanmiller said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

@openit said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

@scottalanmiller said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

@openit said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

2. Safeguard at On-site backup itself : As off-site backup with Replication is not useful only at the time of data infected or corrupted on on-site backup and then replicated, but still useful in case of Original Data and On-site backup fails (building fired, power fluctuation etc.). So keep the on-site backup safe by taking safety measures.

Correct. And because of the async nature we often only take offsite replication once a day or it is very slow. If the original backup becomes corrupted, you often have a bit of time to break replication to protect the off site data, unlike RAID which does so instantly.

Great point, may be I will run replication twice or thrice in a week

You might be able to make replication not touch old data but only send new, as well. So if old data gets corrupted it does not get touched at the remote site.

I am not clear here, is that option I need to set with QNAP Remote Replication to do this ?

I don't use QNAP, I don't know which options they offer and/or expose.
I see. I may need to dig more on google or QNAP forum to know better....

@scottalanmiller said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

@openit said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

@scottalanmiller said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

@openit said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

2. Safeguard at On-site backup itself : As off-site backup with Replication is not useful only at the time of data infected or corrupted on on-site backup and then replicated, but still useful in case of Original Data and On-site backup fails (building fired, power fluctuation etc.). So keep the on-site backup safe by taking safety measures.

Correct. And because of the async nature we often only take offsite replication once a day or it is very slow. If the original backup becomes corrupted, you often have a bit of time to break replication to protect the off site data, unlike RAID which does so instantly.

Great point, may be I will run replication twice or thrice in a week

You might be able to make replication not touch old data but only send new, as well. So if old data gets corrupted it does not get touched at the remote site.

I am not clear here, is that option I need to set with QNAP Remote Replication to do this ?

@scottalanmiller said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

@openit said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

2. Safeguard at On-site backup itself : As off-site backup with Replication is not useful only at the time of data infected or corrupted on on-site backup and then replicated, but still useful in case of Original Data and On-site backup fails (building fired, power fluctuation etc.). So keep the on-site backup safe by taking safety measures.

Correct. And because of the async nature we often only take offsite replication once a day or it is very slow. If the original backup becomes corrupted, you often have a bit of time to break replication to protect the off site data, unlike RAID which does so instantly.

Great point, may be I will run replication twice or thrice in a week

@scottalanmiller said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

@openit said in offsite backup. NAS to NAS Remote Replication on QNAP NASes or other method ?:

3. Huge space on Off-site than On-site : Yes, I do have double space, and will try to get more than double.

Same device but double the capacity?

The data on on-site generally occupies around 6TB and NAS Box at Off-site have capacity of 12TB. And I will try to get more larger if possible.

@scottalanmiller
My understanding with your comment is:

1. Replication : Yes it's just a copy of on-site backup, not real backup.

2. Safeguard at On-site backup itself : As off-site backup with Replication is not useful only at the time of data infected or corrupted on on-site backup and then replicated, but still useful in case of Original Data and On-site backup fails (building fired, power fluctuation etc.). So keep the on-site backup safe by taking safety measures.

3. Huge space on Off-site than On-site : Yes, I do have double space, and will try to get more than double.

So this is how in general people get Off-site backups set-up by NAS on remote location ? with replication itself